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[–] Slowy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

In one slice, cut a third off of each apple, and you’re left with 3 portions of 2/3 an apple each

[–] DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What's bothering me is, mathematically that is the answer, but practically the apple is a non uniform shape so you cant really determine where a third of the apple truly is and it has seeds in the middle meaning two of the kieces will have seeds one the one getting the two cut off pieces won't so its not truly shared equally.

[–] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Equal" has a slightly different meaning in fair division problems. It doesn't mean "the exact same quantity of matter", so not being able to judge exactly 1/3 of the apple doesn't super matter (though your seed problem can be solved by cutting diagonally through the apples rather than along one side), but rather, that each person gets a portion they value at least as much as the others; maybe some people are willing to take a smaller piece if it means they have no seeds, maybe some people are going to peel their piece so they care more about having the largest internal volume, maybe some people plan to plant the seeds and so they actually value them, maybe some people only care about having the biggest piece.

In practice, for three people this can take as few as 2 cuts or as many as 6; since there's two apples and we can do 2 cuts with one stroke here, there is a fair division solution, but it only works if things go perfectly:

The first person cuts the apples into 3 shares they think are of equal value (perhaps they hate apple cores, so they cut one side off both as above)

The second person points out which share(s) they think are the best

The third person takes the share they consider to be most valuable

The second person takes the share they consider to be most valuable

The first person takes the remaining share, which, since they cut, they must consider equal to the other two.

If the second person doesn't think at least two shares are of equal value, the problem becomes impossible to resolve without more knifeplay.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

If anyone is interested, there's this video by Up and Atom that neatly shows the complexity.

[–] huginn@feddit.it 1 points 7 months ago

Or cut both of them in half and throw out half an apple.

Didn't say all of the apple.

[–] ilovesatan@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How do you do that in one slice?

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Line the apples up next to each other, I guess. Sort of like taking a single slice through multiple carrots on the cutting board at once. Harder to do with apples given their shape, but I'd the knife is big enough, or you're counting a slice as "single continuous motion" then it is probably valid.

I can't think of any other physical solution that isn't a joke, so this is the most probable puzzle solution. In a D&D setting I might require a slight of hand check with a very low DC to pull off the single slicing motion.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lowest common denominator is 6... Or murder.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

It can be done in 4 pieces. Whole numbers aren't necessary for the pieces.

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Align the two apples so they're off center to one another. One has 2/3 on the outside to the left, 1/3 to the right, the other 2/3 to the outside to the right, 1/3 to the left.

Bird's eye view, the single line cutting both apples will leave us with the left 2/3 of the first apple and the right 2/3 of the second, and a third portions made of 2 thirds, or another 2/3 of an apple.

One cut, 2 apples, 3 equal portions.

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] Robert7301201@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Easier:

(..|.)

(..|.)

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Those are some weird looking titties

[–] androogee@midwest.social 1 points 7 months ago

Get yo ass to Mars

[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

I thought about this at first but then two people get the core as part of their portion and one doesn't :(

[–] GiuEliNo@feddit.it 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What my group will do

Kill one person, yeah we are so dumb :D

[–] Numhold@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

With one stroke? Does your group only consist of level 1 wizards or is it some kind of legendary knife?