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[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 63 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I realize I'm probably in the minority here, but do they have an option at the original 1280x800? I don't want my games performance to tank, and I find that resolution to be perfectly comfortable.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

you can always just run the games at that resolution

[–] DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That's fair. I'd just rather not pay for pixels I won't use (/s)

[–] anlumo 37 points 3 weeks ago

Just donate the extra pixels to charity, problem solved!

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago

There’s also an argument to be made for the pixels not being an ideal multiple. Maybe it matters less when there are 3440x1440 of them on a traditional screen, but the blurriness caused by this effect at small screen sizes is quite noticeable on text.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

i think screens look blurry in the wrong resolution. i always rather use it in the native resolution. that effect will probably be more noticeable in a low ppi screen like the deck's.

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Or at 720p, as this is a 16:9 aspect ratio, and running stuff on it at 16:10 will look weird.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but they will have to be upscaled somehow, which will noticeably reduce clarity.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

FSR2/XeSS upscaling pretty much acts as free anti aliasing, making it look better. And you get better UI rendering.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I personally find the sharpened look of FSR to look really bad to the point where I prefer conventional bilinear upscaling, not to mention that using FSR also uses precious compute time on weaker systems.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

FSR1 is pretty bad as it's just upscaling the static image, I agree.
FSR2/3, XeSS and DLSS are temporal, meaning they use info from the previous frames to construct a higher resolution image that gives much better results. They also need to be implemented in the game engine, meaning not every game supports them.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

That might explain why I don't have the highest opinion of FSR. I've only used it in Counter Strike 2 and Godot. I've never tried XeSS or DLSS but thanks to your comment I just learned that XeSS can apparently run non intel GPU vendors from their github page

[–] vodka@lemm.ee 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My issue is the same as with DeckHD, the resolution bump is fine.. having to use a modified BIOS? Not so much.

[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wasn't support promised by valve not too long ago?

[–] vodka@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Seems so, neat!

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

It's probably not possible for supply reasons. OLED displays are expensive to produce in small numbers, so this is probably using screen components originally made for another device. Not many devices use a 720 or 800p screen at this size, so sourcing one probably isn't possible.

[–] bobby@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

I realize I’m probably in the minority here, but do they have an option at the original 1280x800?

Wouldn't it then make more sense to sell you LCD Deck and buy an OLED one? Whether you buy an extra screen or the added cost of a new OLED one, the price difference should be in the same ballpark. Not to mention the risk of damage and the need for a modified BIOS. New warranty on the OLED model would be an added bonus.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I fear the price point on this will not be able to compete with just getting a new SteamDeck OLED

[–] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed. Though I think it's cool, it's gonna be spendy.

If it could be less than $150, or better yet less than $100, I'd be in. Otherwise I might pass.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting. Something to look forward to in the future.

Now I'm also hoping for a more power dense battery.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You, and everybody else. I think everyone has been waiting on a new battery technology breakthrough for the past 10+ years.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Solid state batteries are the next leap we're likely to see. They already exist but aren't widely available for consumer products yet.

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't need any special advances in batteries, I just need "it's possible to replace them" and "it's possible to get them".

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can already replace the battery. You can purchase a replacement here, along with all the tools you need to replace it if you don't already have them: https://www.ifixit.com/products/steam-deck-battery

There's also a full video guide on the process.

Valve worked with iFixit to make sure they have replacements available for every part in the deck. Valve was very up front that they wanted to enable people to do their own repairs and upgrades.

[–] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

I have an early Deck, so I know that pulling the battery* is going to be a huge pita.

*without setting it and myself on fire.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

True, but I was thinking there might be a smaller, incremental improvement in lithium ion batteries each year. Am I wrong about that? Are we going nowhere with lithium anymore?

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

There are smaller improvements each year, and from looking at it, it seems like EV automobiles and other markets are helping drive increasingly significant gains actually. I'm not sure on how much of the emergency density gains actually apply to small batteries though, or if it's more about improvements in larger batteries. Either way it's less stagnant than I thought.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Would this be better or worse for battery life?

[–] cron 10 points 3 weeks ago

The article says that the influence on battery usage is low. But the higher resolution might result in a higher power draw.

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My understanding is that oleds are a weird beast. Since there’s no backlight, each pixel can be considered a small colored light, if you have a fully black screen, then it’s essentially off and not using any power. However, there are instances where the peak brightness is limited to a small portion of the screen, because blasting the entire thing of full brightness white would pass the power supply capacity…

That said, let me stress this: it’s my understanding. Not a hard fact, I might be wrong or just basing things on old information.

[–] huskypenguin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yes you are correct. Peak brightness is a variable based on load.

As for power effeciency, I have no idea.

[–] OrkneyKomodo@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

The bezels were already pretty large on the LCD deck.