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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Warning: Unpopular opinion coming up

This is a ridiculous metric. They measure carbon emissions not just by what the billionaires are consuming, but by what their investments (businesses, factories, etc) are producing. This is akin to the world blaming China for their grossly inflated per capita emissions, while conveniently ignoring that it's actually being consumed by other countries and it's just shifting numbers around.

There are plenty of legit reasons to hate billionaires, there's really no need to be making up new questionable ones that can be torn apart.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 24 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (3 children)

So if someone is polluting the air my child and I breathe, and destroying the environment in which we live, and I use physical force to stop them, is that self-defense?

[–] SelfProgrammed@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago

At this point, it feels less "morally allowed" and more "morally required" that we defend ourselves.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

If you cook the rich over a wood burning fire, it would be a net savings in carbon emissions, hypothetically speaking.

[–] qupada@fedia.io 1 points 8 minutes ago

My cauldron uses an induction stove powered by renewable energy.

Braised in wine, the way they're accustomed to. Attempting to roast the rich doesn't achieve a great result.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Yes.

It's going to take the courts awhile to catch up.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 27 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

We should burn billionaires for fuel to reduce our carbon footprints.

[–] darthelmet@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

But aren't people carbon based? We should just compost them instead.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 32 points 4 hours ago

Thats actually an insane metric. Like I try to be conscious and clean, but even I pokute far more than I should. Then these dudes are doing that over and over every hour and a half? What the fuck?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Yea but it's on us for not recycling or not setting our thermostats to 85° or leaving the lights on or having the audacity to leave electronics in standby or leaving a charger plugged in or driving too much! /s

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 minutes ago

... 72f is normal (22c)

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

And we are billed unreasonably for using that energy too. My electric has skyrocketed in the last few years. Meanwhile the business customers have stayed relatively the same. Electric companies need to bill businesses way more and give citizens a break.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

85°?!?

Look at mister moneypants here with his sauna

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

They're just measuring the increase in the amount of methane in the room when Elon speaks.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

If dairy and beef cows produce significant quantities of greenhouse gas, and the rich also produce significant quantities of greenhouse gas, does that make them edible too?