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The atmosphere is so heated, and the statements are getting more and more extreme. Let's just assume Harris wins the election. After a campaign like this, how could you ever have a normal relationship with your pro-Trump neighbor/father-in-law/Uncle/Barber or what ever again?

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[–] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago

Unless we get a blow-out for either candidate that cannot be challenged, which does not seem likely based on the polls and battle lines, even if we have a Biden-esque victory for Harris, I’m fairly unsure of what will happen next. I personally doubt full on Civil War like in the Garland movie, or the actual civil war, but I would expect all kinds of shitty legal tricks, possible Supreme Court involvement and of course, stochastic and targeted violence, particularly towards immigrants and minorities. In other words, win or lose, I think the US may be in for a bad time. Hopefully I’m working in my assumptions here and it is somewhat more boring.

To better answer your question though, assuming things don’t completely fall apart: the two sides already don’t mix much, which is part of the problem in the first place. We’ll get more govt inaction due to gridlocked congress, probably more defense spending and some states, in the absence of federal legislating, will continue to take a larger role as they have been doing already in the recent era.

So basically more of the same, on a not-great trend line. Something has to give at some point, it’s hard to imagine how you could put the genie back in the bottle now, particularly with overall conditions in the world due to late-stage capitalism and climate change constricting each year.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

this is normal. half the country is composed of backward degenerates.

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

24% is backwards degenerates. That's the percentage of the population that voted for trump in 2020. No where near half, no matter how much they may claim to represent half.

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[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Don't worry, there's the insurrection and riots next.

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[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 weeks ago

If pro Trump. Your pro fascist. Your activity involved in wanting me and everyone I love to be dead or enslaved.

I cut out all fascists from my life. Always have been. So really nothing really will change for the people I talk too.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

This has been the norm since 2016. Until the GOP unilaterally rejects Trumpism, this will be how it is every four years.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Extreme is only coming from one side. The hateful one.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

We need the fascists to stop being fascists. That’s it. Literally once they stop we may not like them anymore but we can learn to live together again

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is the new normal. It’s everyone angry all the time until something snaps or the culture changes. Personally I believe you have to wait until the older part of Gen X is dead before we get relief.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago

We don't. The hate continues to rise and election season never ends. Well, the never-ending election season might be ending real soon if someone gets their way.

Trump could die tomorrow and fascism would still be a rising problem in the US from citizens hunting FEMA responders, to elected officials like Paxton and DeSantis. Unless you consider actual fascism normal there will be no normalcy for decades in the US. Maybe longer if we don't stamp out the fash.

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 15 points 3 weeks ago

I think it’s fantastic because know it is very clear who I need to exclude from my life.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

I don't want a normal relationship with my Trump loving neighbor. He and his racist wife can go fuck themselves. Their signs and banners told me who they are. I'm choosing to listen

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It is now easier to identify political whackadoos and disengage.

I moved to the bluest neighborhood in a blue town in a purple county in a bluish purple state. I actually enjoy talking to my neighbors about politics now, I can out out positive messages without getting my house egged.

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[–] wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

hope my older relatives fucking die or figure out it's time to change. on a more serious note, protest and try to help build coalitions against this but idk it seems quite grim.

[–] KaiReeve@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What you see in the news and on social media doesn't paint a true picture of what daily life is like here for people. Most of Trump's supporters aren't the hateful bigots that the Internet makes them out to be, they're just convinced that he's the lesser of the 2 evils. This is why you see that his rallies are empty and he's still polling at ~47%.

Most of the deepest Trump cult fanatics live in communities where that is more prevalent, like rural Alabama, so if you don't live where they live, you just don't really encounter them. And if you do live in those areas, you're already used to the rampant racism because it's always been there.

So me and my immigrant wife will still go visit my pro-trump uncle for his annual pig roast, because he's not a bad person, he's just a moron. I'll still call my conservative mother every week because she's not threatening to kill me for voting blue, she's just consumed too much anti-Kamala propaganda. My religious sister is still welcome to visit because even though she's an idiot, my nieces are freakin adorable and I love them.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I assume you're not in the crosshair of Trump policy once he gets elected? Because for some people threats to their life and voting Trump are about the same thing.

You continue to tolerate your family tolerating and even choosing hate and bigotry, even if they themselves don't exhibit them to your face. Your uncle IS a bad person.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Assuming Harris wins, same way we went back to normal after 2020 and Jan 6. Those people that lost will go back to being the same jackass people they were before, but there won’t be any “popular uprisings” this time around. Jan 6 was the best shot they had when Trump was in power and could’ve conceivably tried something, now they have nothing.

Trump will be diminished, his court cases start piling on again and he hopefully dies of natural causes while taking a shit on a golden toilet. How MAGA “moves on” after Trump is the bigger question. Do the moderates take back control of the Republican party, or do they become even more unhinged?

Shit goes to hell if Trump wins and takes the presidency or if he gets Seal Team-Six’d by Biden before he even gets into office, which he apparently has the legal standing to do, but likely won’t because Democrats are dumb and will “take the high road” into fascism.

[–] Cagi@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm Canadian and because of QAnon and Trump, I don't have a relationship with my sister anymore and I see my dad once every few years out of obligation, but not a day goes by where he doesn't say something mortifyingly racist or fascistic. He watches Fox News from the US every day. They aren't allowed a Canadian channel because they don't meet our legal standards for truthful reporting. American politics always leak into Canada. I hate it.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago

I wrote off politics media as hyperbolic and manipulative propaganda in 2016 and I actively distance myself from it, so I've only seen the broad strokes of this current election cycle. Unless you honestly believe you are doing important activism work, give yourself permission to just chill out about politics. If your life is full of problems caused by politics such that it's impossible for you to chill out about politics, you have my sympathy.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

If Harris wins, ideally I'll do all the things I've been putting off until after the election. I've been meaning to update the address on my driver's license, the registration on my car, and several other things like that.

I live in a deep red state; I've been paranoid about getting them done, for fear of my voter registration "happening" to get lost in the process. And then I'd finally have an excuse to never visit my hardcore right-wing parents ever again, because my mail won't be showing up at their house anymore.

If Trump wins, I'm not going to update anything. I plan to flee. I don't have the means to leave the country, but I've got friends in blue states who are happy to take me in. That's better than nothing, I guess.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

For me, it's super easy. My "normal" relationship with Trumpers is one of intense scorn and derision because they're terrible people that I want nothing to do with. So nothing's going to change for me.

It's pretty simple: they willingly sacrificed every last ounce of humanity for a grifter / bully. They're not coming back. Chasing after the relationship you used to have with them before they decided to embrace virulent hatred is a losing proposition. Sure, you can mourn that lost relationship, but hoping that they're going to magically see the light and stop being the human equivalent of anal warts is only going to cause you further disappointment and pain.

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