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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The other day a conservative on Lemmy (!) called me a wokeboi blueanon, so I am qualified to help with the definition:

Awareness of structural and systematic inequality and oppression and the need for radical (systematic) reforms for same.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Called you a what? The hell is "blueanon"?

[–] gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (4 children)

left-leaning anon probably

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Urr, but why would that be "blue"?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Yes, it's the reverse of how it is in Canada or the UK.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah, blue and red are often used to describe the Democrats and Republicans, respectively.

[–] uis@lemm.ee -1 points 4 days ago

Urr, but why would that be "blue"?

Gay

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

But isn't anon fundamentally right wing in it's ideology? I mean, I'm no expert but this feels like calling someone a meat eating vegan.

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ahhh, Qanon had just ruined that one for me I guess, fair call out

As I have said when replying to another fellow, the use of anon is still baffling here.

[–] Weslee@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Blue version of an anon, I guess?

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

Pretty sure it's supposed to be specifically hard-left, maybe conspiracy oriented (because they would assume Trump's Russian ties and criminal guilt are a conspiracy theory), equivalent to Qanon but on the other side.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't left-leaning anon be redanon? Color of communist parties is red.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

Us centric, the colors are reversed (ish, as the democratic party isn't really a left wing party).

Not even to my face, the coward

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So going by context, and correct me if I’m wrong here, but doesn’t the existence of “blueanon” imply that conservatives who use the word recognize that Q is bullshit?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

I am not adequately trained or compensated to untangle such a cobweb of bullshit

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think it more so derives from the same place Q derives from rather than deriving from Q himself.

Chanboard users refer to each other as anons. I am still somewhat confused, as the conservative would presumably refer to op disparagingly as a "blue[British word for ciggie]" as opposed to "blueanon", seeing as how "anon" has connotations of comradery. This is further compounded by the fact that we have usernames. We're not anonymous. We're pseudononymous.

If I had to guess, this is due to moderation preventing the use of slurs in regular speech in most regions of Lemmy.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago
[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Conservative 1: Wake up people!!

Conservative 2: Don't be woke!!

What do?

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Woke is the new words conservatives have to learn because they’ve used the old ones as bully words for so long they’ve taken new and derogatory meanings.

Not that they’ll read that but here’s part of the test answer for those who can.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 days ago

Conservative and certain Blue MAGA Liberals can't seem to understand the definition of Tankie(s). They like to think it means any communist. They are a special of dumb dumbs.

[–] Muscar@discuss.online 7 points 3 days ago

Conservatives when you ask them to define anything*

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

In fash doublespeak woke just means not "white". That's why they can't/won't explain. It's no mystery.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 13 points 4 days ago

It can mean "not a man", "not cis" and "not straight" too

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's kinda funny to think that the "woke mind virus" is actually real, just the exact opposite of what conservatives think it is. Something that they are spewing around, and its effects are lack of critical thought x)

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Just like Trump Derangement Syndrome

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The world was better when we had Lisztomania instead

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 4 days ago

They can't even give the original definition as the past tense of wake.

[–] Hupf@feddit.de 11 points 4 days ago

Well, it's whatever you guys are up to.

[–] Yggnar@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

During the testimony, Warren's attorney, Jean-Jacques Cabou asked those within DeSantis' administration what "woke" meant to them.

The governor's general counsel, Ryan Newman, said, in general, it means "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."

https://www.fox13news.com/news/what-does-woke-mean-gov-desantis-officials-answer-during-andrew-warren-trial

They know what Woke means, and it's just as fucking backwards and asinine as you'd expect. Imagine trying to criminalize people fighting for equality. It's the only word I'm aware of that is simultaneously classist, racist, misogynistic, and anti-lgbtq thanks to how the right have chosen to use it.

I don’t know why it’s so hard. I means “Things I don’t like, especially when it pertains to anything that could be called liberal.”

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago
[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

National Razor?