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[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's really hard to know how this will play out. The models only have to improve a bit at this point to be reliably better than humans, as which time it probably makes sense to replace humans. It seems they will probably still hallucinate but do it little enough that it's still a net gain to use them. Compute power needed to run them will surely come down.

I'm as skeptical as the next guy, but I do think they will have uses, especially in examples like radiology which he he uses as a negative case. However I'm pretty sure it will eventually be able to do the initial screening to find the 95% of cases with nothing at a rate similar to existing medical diagnostic testing and then return the other 5% back to a human to review and decide further treatment. Based on my experience with speech language models, I'm pretty sure you'd be able to tweak the models to produce mostly false positives rather than false negatives and then run it through further layers of review afterwards.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

the electricity bill for each query – to power the servers and their chillers – would still make running these giant models very expensive.

This assumes there won't be radical advances in cost-effective hardware to run the queries.

AI proponents work precisely towards such advances: hardware tailored to running the best performing models, at far lower costs than current GPUs and GPU derivates.

Something like "execute in RAM" neural network accelerators, could reduce query costs by several orders of magnitude.

The fraud of the cryptocurrency bubble was far more pervasive than the fraud in the dotcom bubble, so much so that without the fraud, there’s almost nothing left.

Ironically, what the crypto bubble left behind, was a surplus of GPUs, which got repurposed for AI... and just like crypto left GPUs to move onto purpose-built ASICs and other models like PoS instead of PoW, so does AI need to leave GPUs and move onto purpose-built hardware with better models (quantized NNs are a good example).

As a tangent, we could talk about how the gaming industry has enabled a GPU industry that in turn has enabled these off-shots.

[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

A very dumb bubble that will pop and leave companies scrambling to be certified "AI Free" to gain customers and employees

[–] aard@kyu.de 1 points 6 months ago

A problem of this bubble is that it is making AI synonymous with LLM - and when it goes down will burn other more sensibly forms of AI.

[–] vfosnar@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago

The same way companies advertise they are certified to be "Privacy respecting", right? right?

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So far, the only thing AI has shown to be pretty good at is summerizing a large amount of data, and even then it cant be fully trusted to not make mistakes.

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Hmm, I think summarization is a bad example. I've read quite some AI summaries that miss the point, sum up to a point where the simplification makes sth wrong or the AI added things or paraphrased and made things at least ambiguous. Even with the state of the art tech. Especially if the original texts were condensed or written by professionals. Like scientific papers or good news articles...

What I think works better are tasks like translating text. That works really well. Sometimes things like rewording text. Or the style-transfer the image generators can do. That's impressive. Restoring old photos, coloring them or editing something in/out. I also like the creativity they provide me with. They can come up with ideas, flesh out my ideas.

I think AI is an useful tool for tasks like that. But not so much for summarization or handling factual information. I don't see a reason why further research coudn't improve on that... But at the current state it's just the wrong choice of tools.

And sure, it doesn't help that people hype AI and throw it at everything.

[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Not one of his better articles. A lot of prevaricating with very little substance or conclusions. While AI investment is most certainly a bubble, few are taking into account the technology improving. This is a bone the tech dogs aren't going to give up easily. They have a whiff of the possibility of AIG becoming a reality. Like all promising tech, the potential for long term damage is as, if not more so, catastrophic for society as the World Wide Web and social media. He's looking at this as an echo of past Silicone Valley bubbles. It so much more than that.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago

Very little substance or conclusions. While technology is improving, you're not reading into account AI investment is a bubble.

AI can certainly help, but not a single one was able to consistently deliver good results. A technology that needs constant supervision by an actual expert isn't really all that useful. And this is not just a problem of scale. It's a limitation of the current approach. Throwing billions at a problem to save a few millions just isn't worth it.