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[–] lps@social.trom.tf 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

@yogthos For all Germans, if this needs to be said.

You are not responsible for the sins of your fathers, and you are not required to support Israel out of German guilt for the holocaust.

It is not anti-Semitic to point out that the STATE of Israel is committing genocide!

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Germans, the inheritors of the legacy of West Germany, simply merged aspects of Nazism into their liberalism while officially declaring Nazism illegal. Often with literal actual Nazis being given important places in power, especially to continue their Nazi anticommunist work. They did not internalize the actual lesson, obviously. They still support scapegoating and racism and apartheid and genocide, and just like the Nazis, twist it into a self-defense logic of treating the perpetrators as victims and their targets as aggressors.

Something like 20% (or more?) of those they have censored and thrown the book at for criticizing Israel and having solidarity with Palestine are Jewish. It is not merely a selective understanding that only violence against Jewish people is wrong, as they continue to happily do it. It is a consistent alliance with Imperialist, racist genocide as laundered through the aforementioned narratives.

We need more countries advocating for including Germany as a party to thus genocide, to both publicly shame them and to materially work against their ability to support it with weapons, money, and diplomatic cover.

[–] shucks@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

I found no attribution of source, neither on the article by MEMO, nor on similar snippets posted to YouTube by other publications. Seeing only a few sentences of her speech without context made me curious to read the whole speech. Here it is: https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/newsroom/-/2679468, with the paragraphs in question translated (Sorry for not translating more, I don't have DeepL Premium):

We have made it just as clear - and this is not a contradiction, but a complement - that international humanitarian law and Israel's right to exist go hand in hand. This is what the German raison d'état stands for. That is why we have stated it clearly time and again: Self-defense naturally means not only attacking terrorists, but destroying them. That is why I have made it so clear that when Hamas terrorists hide behind people, behind schools, then we are entering very difficult areas. But we will not duck away from them. That's why I made it clear to the United Nations that civilian places can also lose their protected status because terrorists abuse it. Germany stands by this, for us it means Israel's security. And because the resolutions have been mentioned: We are pursuing a policy of action. In view of the resolutions, which state that humanitarian aid must reach Gaza, that the two-state solution can be the only goal if we really want security for the entire region, but which also contain some sentences that Germany does not share, we cannot say: we are closing our eyes, we are not finding the strength to differentiate, as a mother of a hostage who has been killed finds in the most difficult hour of her life.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Nazi Germany is still alive, the antisemitism is just redirected towards Palestinians

[–] ZonenRanslite -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But why Hitler, is that necessary?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is the symbol for Germans doing a genocide is not not?

[–] spechter@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

Otherwise you would risk being taken serious.