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[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think it's fucking bullshit they murdered Fred Hampton and got away with it.

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[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

FD Signifier is THE youtuber that i listen to on black issues, and this reminds me a lot of this video

[–] Digital_man@lemmy.one 77 points 1 day ago (28 children)

White capitalism is what made black people slaves and pushed them into poverty.

Perhaps we need new ideas that help everyone.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

White capitalism

This is just called capitalism.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, it gives deference to rich people, but when it was legal to discriminate against POC, they had a massive disadvantage in pretty much every aspect of their lives. Not perfect, but much improved now...

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Capitalism is the Sociopath's Ideology and hence it will always promote the use of any power advantages to exploit the less powerful, with no consideration for the fellings of others or harm done to them, for fairness or for morality.

Which is why it had to be something outside Capitalism to push for fairer treatment of POC and even then every single day in America it's an uphill fight for those amongst them who remain disadvantaged: that previous exploitation of them as powerless due to their ethnicity meant that when the discriminatory treatment on the color of their skin was reduced (not eliminated, but certainly comparativelly much reduced), they ended up poor people and hence still the victims of discrimination and exploitation, because the poor too are less powerful than most and hence exploited to the max under Capitalism, and as an overexploited group it's incredibly harder for them to pull themselves out of poverty or help their children do so, which means that situation is entrenched.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Also Black Wall Street got hate crimed off the face of the earth, so I'd say "white capitalism" is fair enough.

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Capitalism can't help anyone out of poverty at least not without exploiting masses.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world -2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

In 1800, 80% of the world lived in extreme poverty. Now it's under 10%.

Fact is, the vast majority of the so-called "exploit[ed]masses" rose out of poverty over the same period of time that capitalism established itself as the primary economic system the world over.

So who were they all exploiting, to get out of poverty? Each other?

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[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Capitalism has race now? Or are they suggesting to use race as a product?

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago (6 children)

"Black capitalism" is historically the approach of some African American* communities and individuals to resist racial oppression by embracing capitalism and out-competing whites in it, essentially. This met its most famous manifestation in Tulsa, Oklahoma, which developed a wealthy black capitalist class, but neighboring white towns got mad at this and basically leveled a good portion of the town and killed many people. For reasons beyond me, some liberals hold up Tulsa as some wonderful thing and proof that black people should just be more engaged in capitalism, and they ignore how the experiment ended.

The most famous "black capitalism" proponent is the Jamaican-born American Marcus Garvey, who some Rastafarians worship as a prophet. To poison the well immediately, he was supported by the KKK in his projects to send African Americans "back to" Africa, because their ideologies and aims of ethnonationalism broadly aligned.

*It's mostly an American thing, but it's not exclusively an American thing by any means

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[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 9 points 1 day ago

Capitalism has always had a form of race, but it's a social hierarchy.

Class.

It has always been class. The lie that gets sold to middle America is that one day, they too will be of a higher class.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

You know that's really a brilliant rebuttal.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True? Yes.

Funny? Not really.

/c/depressing would be a better fit

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

agitprop does tend to get miscategorized, but "capitalism didn't solve white poverty," as-rendered there, registers to me as a grim punchline.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Except it's done more to solve it since anything that preceded it, so it's not only not funny, it's a misleading/disingenuous talking point.

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[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree, white capitalism is so last year, get with the latest fashion and use black capitalism.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It is past September.

[–] bastion@feddit.nl -4 points 21 hours ago

Capitalist action to support communist ideals.

Analysis of true, lifetime cost tacked onto the purchase price.

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Socialism is a cancer and Capitalism is, uh what cures cancer?

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Or maybe race doesn't really exist outside our dumb little brains and capitalism was the real problem all along

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Not to imply that ethnic/cultural tensions never existed before in history, but capitalism created racism as a tool of oppression, and of pitting working class people against each other.

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