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At a certain point it is just willful ignorance to not learn what it is the most evil chunks of our country wants to do and why. ——— Just rolling out of bed, anyway. Yes on second look this is old. I don’t think that takes away from my doomsaying ‘that’s the direction they’re going’, first abortion then the gays then racial hierarchy. These are the traditional values of America that we have stripped away.

Anywhoo here’s an article about it and Il make a follow up post https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2022/03/23/how-indiana-reacted-mike-brauns-comments-interracial-marriage/7138541001/

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[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 89 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'll do you one better! The interracial marriage ruling should be left to the individual!

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 days ago

Rah rah personal freedoms!

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 75 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's interesting how the only "states' rights" conservatives care about are the ones involving denying rights to the people.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago

Unless their definition of "people" is somehow more exclusive.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 71 points 5 days ago

Everybody who votes for them knows exactly what they stand for. They vote for them because of the fascism, not despite it.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If Republicans win too many election, everything up to and including the second coming of slavery is on the table. That is not hyperbole.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We already have slavery. It was never truly banned, just added the need to have been convicted of a crime. Ever wonder why the US has the world's largest prisoner population (not just per capita) and why African Americans are disproportionately brought to trial and receive more severe sentences (especially in former CSA states)? Slavery is the reason.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Overt Slavery was replaced with Jim Crow, which was replaced with great difficulty with a combination of encouraged undocumented immigration exploited labor, where they get punished for doing it but the employer never gets punished for leveraging it, combined with an expansion of the prison population to the largest coerced labor pool on Earth, and not just per capita, because we've made prisoners profitable.

America was built by and runs on the backs of a designated underclass by design. We have never been without a massive, policy defined underclass.

Shining city on the hill my ass. We have never not been a garbage society that revels in its own avarice and entitlement.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 days ago

This person gets it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This motherfucker is going to be my state’s governor next year, barring anything unprecedented.

[–] GeminiFrenchFry@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't see McCormick coming close. I've heard it's tightening, but I'm not sure Indiana going blue for governor will happen in my lifetime 😐

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

We had Evan Bayh when I was a kid. Maybe again one day…

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Braun" is the color of his Nazi uniform.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] Lupus 13 points 5 days ago

He was also born in Braunau am Inn in Austria and got his German citizenship in Braunschweig.

There were a couple of other Brauns popping up all over his history, like Wernher von Braun. Funny little coincidences

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Authoritarian hierarchy doesn’t preserve itself.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

but but but I was told it was the natural order!

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Turns out that just like Trump isn't really America's Hitler after all but instead the best of the best, his wife wasn't really all that great anyway, he never really liked her that much. Good thing she's gonna get deported to the Camps, it's about time, really. Then he'll ride into the sunset with his couch.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Too late! We already have kids. And oh by the way screw you evil shameless republican person! Such awful people just make me feel so weird inside. Like how can there be idiots like that in the world,?

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Because there are millions of fuckwits who vote for them. Sorry.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You wanna know the worst part? In the Senate race that got him elected this time, he was CLEARLY the best Republican candidate. Imagine if Todd Fucking Rokita had won. Actually, it is almost as bad having him as state AG.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, Rokita would have done less damage in congress.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm just not sure. He was my state rep before AG and I'm on a standing "will literally punch him in the face if I get the opportunity" policy.

Luckily Braun is going to maga/stupid up our governor seat :/.

If you ever want to understand just how stupid my district is, YouTube "Rokita dale debate" for the crawfordsville debate and watch the bit on climate change. Rokita won by a LANDSLIDE here.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh I know stupid districts. Mine is in Terre Haute, the district of DOCTOR Larry Buchson, who wants to end the ACA and cut healthcare programs.

Also, Terre Haute is even worse than Crawfordsville. And that's already quite the high bar.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Condolences.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

Indiana never misses a chance to be a national embarrassment

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is absolutely where they are going with this. In case nobody knows, this is the line of cases That decided issues of interracial sex in marriage, sodomy, pornography, abortion, and eventually the right to homosexual marriage.

Obviously, although it need not be said in the document itself because it's so fucking obvious, it's inconceivable to any rational person that a constitution which restricts the state from warrantless searches and seizures and be secure in our papers and affects, forbids quartering troops in our homes, protects our right to say what we think, and somehow it is allowed to make your family planning and sexual intimacy decisions. The Supreme Court decided all these things based on this concept, which is called Penumbral Reasoning, for those rights that arise not from the Constitution itself, but which is protected as falling within its penumbra.

And guess what, there are conservative judges that are already clamoring that the Fourth Amendment only protects your property, meaning that if you rent your home or have a mortgage on it, or a lease on your automobile, you don't have Fourth Amendment rights. They're coming for them all.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

He’s likely to be governor, unfortunately

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago
[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Only 2 years late on that article

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Has he changed his position?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Changed it almost immediately, in fact.

The Dobbs decision still leaves the door open for this, as well as other horrible things.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

The Gish Gallop* has gone from being a debating tactic to the entirety of the GOP platform.

*The Gish Gallop means that you throw out so many lies, half-truths and bizarre asides that your debate opponent spends all their time trying to get back to the issue at hand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop#:~:text=The%20Gish%20gallop%20%28%2F%20%CB%88%C9%A1%C9%AA%CA%83%20%CB%88%C9%A1%C3%A6l%C9%99p%20%2F%29%20is,opponent%20to%20address%20them%20in%20the%20time%20available.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Yeah, once it's been a while since he first said it, it's not fair or relevant to hold him accountable for believing this sort of thing. That's why successful politicians always make sure to get all their racist bullshit on the record as early as possible, so that it doesn't come up when it matters later.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's relevant today because he is running for governor

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Ah! That makes sense!

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How did interracial marriage come to the supreme court anyway? States made laws against it?

[–] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Seems like pretty textbook usage of the supreme court judicial review process, not sure how he's trying to argue that.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

After reading the article, it seems like he's a moron for answering a question that he didn't understand. It reads like he didn't know what subject Loving referred to. Maybe I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because I'm in an interracial marriage and don't want to believe that we are at a point where representatives actually think they can advocate getting rid of federal protection for interracial marriage but I don't actually believe that this idiot knew what question he was answering.

[–] Vatowine@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Stick your head in the sand more