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Jon Stewart examines the choice undecided voters are facing in the 2024 election: Kamala Harris, who has an impressive résumé and specific policy plans, versus Donald Trump, whose vision, consistency on issues, anti-labor ethos, and militaristic posturing are at odds with the caricature his followers have created for him.

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[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (23 children)

I don't particularly think his supporters matter, as they are mostly sheep and not one of the main facisim roots.

It's the fact that more than half of America's entire media apparatus is entirely behind Trump.

They dominate airwaves and have entire control over several local information ecosystems allowing them to brainwash entire populations with wall-to-wall propaganda that is completely aligned in its message of refuting and obfuscation of reality.

Regardless if the people are racist, scared, simple minded, trained to blindly accept specific authority or whatever, is mostly irrelevant in a society with journalistic integrity, and a non-corporate/private interest owned media.

It's no surprise that some people believe outrageous, impossible, contradictory, claims when every reality authority available to you exclusively tells you coordinated lies.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reagan’s FCC overturning the Fairness Doctrine in 1987 is to thank for this. He and Nixon oversaw an incredible amount of societal and governmental sabotage. Quite the legacy.

It’s so much worse now, with these corpo propaganda outlets pretending that both parties are legitimate political parties representing people and not just fundraising/grifting organizations.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kamala should out the fairness doctrine back in its place, hell, add it to the constitution. I know this will require Congress too, well, get it done.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe…to tell you the truth, I’m not sure if the Fairness Doctrine fits this world anymore. You’re right though, while the president can light the fire, it will ultimately be up to Congress to actually do something about it.

Right now corporate news agencies are just mouthpieces for our corporate overlords who buy all of the politicians in order to further enrich themselves at our expense. It’s literally robbing us on a national scale. The less facts people understand, the easier it is for them to pull the wool over our eyes and gaslight us into thinking this is a normal, acceptable situation. Clearly this is not sustainable.

We do need some kind of regulations for news to actually be considered news, and to serve as a mechanism to make them deliver factual, useful information to viewers. Not entirely sure what that would look like tbh.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, mainstream media is shitshow atm. ABC news fact checked Trump's BS during that debate and people lost their minds. Why? Because truth doesn't matter? Now CBS refuses to fact check because they are cowards? They are the GD news. Their job is to literally inform the public of the truth.

It really feels like we are literally watching civilization flushing down the drain and there is nothing that can be done about it.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

They did do some fact checking tonight. Not sure it matters overall, based on what you said. Reality can be ignored and rewritten.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've said it before. Misinformation exsits in all information. You will be hard pressed to find any common distributor of information to not have any errors. The thought that you can simply be fed only truth with out having to think critically is a fallacy. You can blame the media for existing but you can't make it not exist. It's people, who have principles, ignoring those principles because we've allowed that to be acceptable behavior in the states.

Stop asking, "can you believe trump did this thing." Start asking, "would you do this thing that trump did." Don't waste your time on petty shit. Stick with the obscene shit. "Would you grab a woman by the pussy?" "Would you sexually assault a woman." "Would you call immigrants animals?"

Their only response will be, that's not true, and right there they have nothing to do but refute reality. A shared reality is the most basic principle of having society and them ignoring what we can see with our eyes and hear with our ears is not them having a different set of facts. It's pure fantasy. It's antisocial behavior, and tell them that.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I haven't heard of ANYTHING Harris. Yes this guy keeps showing up in all my feeds

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 month ago (26 children)

I feel like I'm saying this every day...

His supporters only care that he's a racist.

They don't care about his record.

They only care that he's racist like them.

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They also like his "Christian values"... AKA banning abortion

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You mean women as chattel?

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Their views on women are worse than the worst Muslim views. The most they have on Muslims is the hijab when Muslim countries have the highest rate of women in STEM fields in the world, and Muslim countries that haven't been destabilized by the US and Israel also have them exceed men in advanced degrees.

I am not saying that it is all hunky dorey in the Muslim world, but it isn't what they say it is.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Like higher infant mortality? Poor education?

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I think for a lot of people, the economy was better during Trump’s presidency than Biden’s.

These people are ignorant to the fact that Trump inherited Obama’s economy and could literally coast for 4 years and the economy would not change.

He left Biden with a shit show post Covid which also included a massive tax cut for corporations and the wealthy which in no way would pay for itself.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
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