The real reason your taxes are high is because of... the bears!
this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2024
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I was sceptical about the lack of sources so I DDG'd it:
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/18/us/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-cec/index.html
Fastest way to get caught hiring undocumented workers is to not pay their employment taxes.
Stupid question: If undocumented, how are they verifiably paying anything close to this figure in taxes? Pls respond
They can request and may be assigned an individual tax ID number (ITIN). Having an ITIN may allow them to open a bank account. It also makes it so they pay taxes which a surprising number want to do. Since they want to stay in the country, having a long history of paying taxes is a way to show you don't want to cause trouble and you just want to work. Hell, a lot of them probably know they got Al Capone on tax evasion and don't want to end up like him. Here's a report I just Googled, and possibly the source of the number which is an estimate.
On the other side is how much tax funding is used on them. Here's a report from the House of Representatives which states they use more in services (Medicare, WIC, sending kids to school, etc) than they pay. I can't speak to how accurate the report is considering the makeup and views publicly expressed by members of the committee. I'm personally leaning towards 'they don't, and can't, use as more than they contribute' because they're not eligible for many benefits.
I love how in your last article it's a human centipede ouroboros
Macgregor said that “every alleged asylum seeker, illegal migrant pouring in through the border in Texas or wherever else” is given a monthly payment of $2,200.
Gheen added that ALIPAC “did not make the original claim about the $2,200,” pointing to Carlson’s interview with Macgregor as its source.
Macgregor cited an article published by a Houston radio station on its website to support the claim he made during the interview, which quotes Gheen and the ALIPAC release. The article was published a week after his interview.
Just because you're undocumented doesn't mean the IRS will give up on taking your money.
Not all taxes are collected, much of what we pay in taxes is added on to the cost of things.
For example, sales tax.
probably the tax on their daily spendings
How would that be tracked as "spent by an undocumented immigrant"?
As undocumented immigrants, they'd be unable to have bank accounts, so all of their payments would be in cash wouldn't they?
"unable to have bank accounts"
Believe it or not Mexican debit cards are accepted in the United States.
So then the logical question follows: are we tracking sales tax spent by foreign debit cards and attributing those expenses to be from only undocumented immigrants?
probably by questionnaires on spending habits
Seems to me that no matter how you slice it, whichever way the reports are being compiled, the accuracy is going to be extremely low.
Sensible question. Nobody even knows how many undocumented people are in a country - because they're undocumented.
This has to be a made up figure. The sentiment might be correct but the data is dubious.
It's explained upthread. You can get an ITIN to pay taxes if you don't have a Social Security Number. The estimate is from the amount collected by the IRS from people with ITINs.
No, freeloaders are the not white ilegal imigrants. White imigrants are great!
edit: adding the s/ since some people here are old and don't get it
I think people are getting the implied sarcasm.
no they did not🙄
Ok so if "white" is a color but nobody is actually "white" does that mean that we have solved racism? Finally realized that everyone just has a slight shade of brown difference?
WOW! I love living in the early 2000's! Fuck you all and your flying cars you 3000's assholes! Sure I'll die in this millennium before we meet aliens from outer space, but at least I don't have to purchase oxygen in plastic bags on a daily basis from Trump-Tesla, your friendly oxygen company!
are you ok bro?
Yes, but corporations pay into the system in other ways. Take for example the time Duke Energy had a big coal ash spill into a river. They took the income resources they had and not only paid a fair fine price, cleaned up the...
Wait. No they didn't. They passed on all the costs to their customers. Fortunately those customers were able to use the free market and choose another provider...
Wait. No, they can't. Huh. That IS a freeloader.
I was about to flame you up 😤😂
Oh yes, I remember this. Duke assessed the river bed and determined that a cleanup could cause more damage and would be super expensive. So they did no cleanup AND increased rates.
increased rates
You think that assessment was free? Think again pal.
Damn I hated you on those first lines 😂
You had me going there for a minute
Climate Town, is this you??
Lol, no, but maybe I was channeling him. Great Youtuber.
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Its funny how much owning a successful business sound exactly like being a lazy, work-shy layabout who does nothing while living off of other people's hard work.
I don't think they care. I think they just say they are free loaders because what they really feel is hate towards people of other races and ethnicities, but they can't say it out load or often even admit it to themselves.
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Posts like this are important, but unfortunately in vain, I'm afraid. Those who still don't understand it will never understand it. I think they don't want to. I don't get it.
I'd say it's still important to post and talk about, not for the people who know and don't care, but for the people who don't know and do care.
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Racism is either a symptom or a tool:
Those who cant make sense of their situation being unsatisfactory may fall prey to it to soothe themselves.
Those who hoard all of the worlds wealth use it to distract from that fact.
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I'd actually be willing to bet that we (the US taxpayer) paid those corporations for the privilege of their continued existence
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Reading about The Bracero Program seems kind of wild in today's anti-immigrant US climate.
The Bracero Program (from the Spanish term bracero [bɾaˈse.ɾo], meaning "manual laborer" or "one who works using his arms") was a U.S. Government-sponsored program that imported Mexican farm and railroad workers into the United States between the years 1942 and 1964.
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