Paying $700 for a locked system is crazy.
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It also costs $468.68 over 7 years with the 12 month plan.
So it’s really $1168.68.
I got a great PC for that price!
And instead of no DVD drive, you can put in a DVD RW Drive, Floppy drive, extra SSDs etc.
Can you expand on this, how is a 12 month pkan running for 7 years?
He's talking about PS plus.
The "12 month plan" is meaningfully less expensive than a year of paying monthly, so he's using the cheapest option if you want to play online games (excluding sales, at least).
The average console generation runs for 7-8 years
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Yeah that runs a modified version of freebsd then sony locks and closed source it And if you want to play online you need to pay
You sure? Last I remember the "crazy" quota was paying $999 for a monitor holder branded by a fruit (a bitten fruit, not even a whole one).
Joke aside, the most amusing thing, is that you have to pay $700 for a device attached to your TV, then if you want to check a website you have to resort on your smartphone or whatever shitty browser is integrated in your "smart" TV... because PS5 don't have web browser support!
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Modern consoles with digital games already blur the lines on console generations, but like, very few games are even using the PS5 to max.
PC you can decide your own "generation", and if you upgrade your PC, you don't have to buy remakes, you just turn the settings up.
Between that and locking yourself to one entity to buy games from, there's a lot of downsides to consoles and not many upsides left.
I was always a fan of consoles, everything is packaged nicely and you only had to worry about buying the game itself.
Eventually I ran into the problem where Sony prevented me from starting a DLC I bought and downloaded simply because the base game is validated for a different region. Umm I'm sorry I live in a different country now?? Couldn't get their AI chatbot to help with refunds either (but honestly shouldn't they prevent purchasing in the first place...)
Bit the bullet and built a PC instead. Fuck Sony.
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But friendly reminder: games are almost always cheaper on PC. Maybe not at first, but very quickly.
And you don't pay a monthly fee. Which i only found out a few month ago. Like what the actual fuck
Yes no monthly fee just to play multiplayer, that one really saves a lot of money.
My kids got a hand-me-down PS4, and I found out that we had to pay a connection fee to play online on top of my existing ISP internet fee. I had a what-the-actual-fuck moment. You're forced into the walled garden of the console maker's store and forced to pay more to play with friends? I built them both PCs and they've never really looked back.
I've never been a console fan simply for the proprietary nature of the devices along with the walled garden concept (and fuck controllers lol, I'm too used to mouse and keyboard) , but it really cemented my further rejection of the systems when it became apparent that online play was extra $.
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It doesn't really matter as a PC does so much more than play games. It's like arguing that a Nintendo Switch is cheaper than an a flagship smartphone. Ok, have fun trying to file your taxes, run blender, write code, browse the web, or backup media on your playstation.
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The initial buy in for the steam deck is so much cheaper. It has everything you need in a package: oled screen, portable, better sales, mods, repairable and free multiplayer.
This! Consoles are losing to handhelds like the Steam Deck in terms of capability and price. This keeps up, and we might see more switch over!
I love my Deck.
If you're interested in higher performance, have a use case for a desktop, are willing to go for used parts you put together yourself; then you could get a really decent performance PC for the price of a Deck.
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Maybe I'm too Canadian to understand but where on earth are you able to build a decent gaming PC able to play the latest AAA games on high graphics for $700?
No really, please tell me. I want to upgrade my PC.
Edit: For everyone trying to explain it to me.
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There's more to a PC than a CPU and GPU. Those of you giving me only those 2 that make up more than half of the $700 are kind of reinforcing my point.
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The key thing here is running AAA games on high settings using this budget. You can't really do that.
I think this article is sensationalizing the situation a bit. It could be $700 (if you already have a case, hdds, psu, and cooling on hand.)
But really comes down to your desired resolution and frame rate. I know plenty of people who are fine with 1080p and 60fps.
1440, 2160 120 is another story. The higher end gpu would likely require a slightly higher tier PSU and more efficient cooling which could add a few bucks to the GPU and CPU investment.
I recommend checking out PC part picker to see what your ideal components would shake out to.
I mean you can build a 2k gaming PC for under $700. I think the only games on PS5 that'll be running at 120fps will be the anything shooters that'll run at 250fps on a toaster.
Random "$700 PCPP" search. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8PmJZJ
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You won't be able to do ultra, but you can do high at 1080p30fps in most every modern game pretty easily for that price. 1080p 60fps for a solid chunk of them too.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/MzFVh3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6coMhaOw0Q
Your point still stands though; you're still better off spending 1000$ so that you don't end up shooting yourself in the foot with regards to upgradeability, which is one of the big reasons people want a PC in the first place.
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the PS5 pro uses 60 CU rdna 4, so if you want to match that, buy the supposedly rumored 8800XT that amd is trying to pump more of as they forgoe top end end generation supposedly (basically similar to the RX 480 and RX 5700xt generations)
keep in mind, console and pc sales and cost differ because of where they focus on making money. Sony for example makes money off accessory sales (the ps5 pro is disk driveless and no vertical stand) ontop of never adressing the rampant stick drift problem the dualsense has, ontop of paid online, none of which is any signicant factor on PC, which generally speaking is more front loaded cost heavy but overtime has lower cost in games, services and such.
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A gaming GPU has cost as much as a console for a while now.
No one forces you to spend a thousand dollars on a 4090. An RTX 3060 will outperform a PS5 by a big margin, and for under 200 bucks
Man, 4070ti (a midrange card) is almost a thousand. 4090 is two thousand
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There are console comparable to RX 6600 that costs 200$/€?
Steam Deck all the way. Also Sony's been shit since at least the 2011 hack.
You can also get PC games from all kinds of sources and sales that ultimately are far cheaper than the pithy Playstation sales. It greatly offsets costs over time.
You also have far more backwards compatibility and flexibility especially to do things with controller profiles and mods, etc.
Not to mention in 5 years you can replace one part on the pc and increase performance.
You don't need to upgrade every part every time
While this is technically true, in practice I've found there's always something the old PC is missing, tech wise.
Socket change. Ram version change. New version of PCIe.
Effectively you need to do mobo/cpu/ram all together.
The only other components are GPU and storage, which I agree are generally transferable, but depending on age you may want to upgrade too.
I guess PSU but that is thankfully something you almost never need to upgrade, unless your new GPU sucks down a lot more watts.
Maybe if I had an AM5 board I would be in a better state, but currently on AM4 so my upgrade paths are limited (already on a 5000 series chip).
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Remember when everyone though the PS3 was insane at 599 US dollars?
For context, $599 in 2006 dollars equals $911.41 in 2024
I remember when they announced the first PlayStation right after Sega announced the Saturn was going to be $500 and the Sony dude just came out and said "299" and then bounced.
PS1 launched at $299 in September 1995, which would be about $614 right now.
PS2 launched also at $299 in October 2000, which would be about $541 right now.
PS3 launched at $599 in November 2006, which would be about $935 right now.
PS4 launched at $399 in November 2013, which would be about $538 right now.
PS4 Pro launched at $399 in November 2016, which would be about $520 right now.
PS5 Digital launched at $399 in November 2020, which would be about $482 right now.
PS5 Disc launched at $499 in November 2020, which would be about $603 right now.
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I bought one of those 60GB original PS3s back in 06. That was also the last game console I purchased for myself. Made the switch to PC not long after that.
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You can't even get probably the equivalent graphics card in there for less than $700. I still think PCs are more expensive.
Thinking is but a step on the path to knowing.
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I’m just going to hang out over here with my (modded) PC games from the early 2000s that I love so much…
Modern AAA gaming is not for me.
I enjoy a AAA now and then but console prices are definitely not for me.
Why would I buy a digital only console for 700 usd? My pc is digital only. The only reason I even buy consoles is physical games, but Sony wants to stop giving that option.
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