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"the company looked at the history of social media over the past decade and didn’t like what it saw.... existing companies that are only model motivated by profit and just insane user growth, and are willing to tolerate and amplify really toxic content because it looks like engagement... "

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[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We desperately need a company like Mozilla to take the reigns of something like Lemmy. The original developers are far too biased and short sighted to see the bigger picture, it needs to be an independent group that promotes more open source development.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Where do you get that from? I have no love for tankies, but from what I've seen, they've built a product that's free of their biases, opensourced it and thrown it over the wall with no strings attached.

If you want to make a rooten-tooten white supremacist nazi instance with Lemmy, you can do exactly that. Nobody has to federate with you, and you don't have to federate with them.

Strange take.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Strange take.

Not for folks who have been following the development. It’s one thing if it’s just a couple of devs working on the project and trying their best, it’s an entirely different thing when a couple of devs are shutting out large numbers of contributors (frequently subject matter experts which they desperately need at this point) over relatively trivial issues. It's become a pattern and will almost certainly continue. At this point a significant number of users have been lost because the devs have been largely unable to capitalize on previous waves on growth due to slow development. Because of all this Lemmy has an awful reputation even among the rest of the fediverse and particularly among people who have tried to contribute. A fork would probably be a significant improvement as far as brand perception goes.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It seems to me they're saying Lemmy needs corporate backing to grow? Cause if they were so bothered by the opinions of the Lemmy devs they could simply use Kbin instead.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well that or use an instance that isn't theirs, or doesn't even federate with theirs, or simply block theirs.🤔 I mean this is really throwing the baby out with the bath water.

I have no strong love for leninists/stalinists, and think they accomplish little other than making actual socialists look bad while not being socialist themselves. But I'm not that put off by them. They're generally fairly intellectually weak, and easy to maneuver around. Should you choose to interact with them.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They are talking about the people developing lemmy, not some petty fight with the admins of one specific instance.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Lemmy devs have no power over instances they do not run themselves.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Other than writing the software that all of those instances use to stay up to date and in contact with each other, regardless of their federation status.

[–] unnecessarygoat@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

can't people just take the lemmy source code and make their own version of the lemmy api?

[–] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I've considered leaving Lemmy because of who is in charge of development right now. They were not ready for its sudden burst in popularity and are not handling it well.

Time for a repo fork?