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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, the planet was destroyed in the name of insatiable capitalist greed.

But for one shining moment in time, we created a lot of value for shareholders!

(and just to be crystal clear, not you)

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/18/the-wealthiest-10percent-of-americans-own-a-record-89percent-of-all-us-stocks.html

[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The planet will be fine. It's us that should be worried.

[–] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For the love of christ, stop saying that. Every single time someone makes this comment. We. Get. It.

[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll stop saying it the minute people stop saying we're destroying the planet.

[–] foo@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only an idiot thinks that when we say *we are destroying the planet " they literally means the planet will explode or something. It's clear that we mean the only part of the planet that is meaningful for us, the biosphere.

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

But it's the idiots that CONSTANTLY argue that the world will be fine. The framing of it as protection of animals/the planet/the climate makes it incredibly easy for people to pretend it's optional, not directly related to them. This isn't a hypothetical point, EVERY SINGLE climate discussion I've ever witnessed some mouthbreather has argued that "the climate will continue to exist, it doesn't need protecting".

What needs protecting isn't the planet, the ecology, the animals or plants, it's US. It's ENTIRELY an US problem.

[–] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which we also won't destroy. Life on earth will adapt, but we're making it inhospitable for ourselves.

[–] narp@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Well, I guess all the life forms that are going extinct through the Holocene/anthropogene extinction event, which humans caused, don't matter?

Sure there will be life on earth and it will adapt, but don't act like we're not taking down whole families of plants and animals with us.. because it's already happening.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do we? Because the absolutely astonishing sense of self-importance humans have would indicate otherwise.

Other beings live here, and while humans fuck humans over in the name of greed and power, we bulldoze entire ecosystems without any consideration for the other creatures that lived here whatsoever.

No, you're wrong. Most humans live, act, and speak as if the entire world, hell the entire universe, should be bent to better serve our naive, entitled species exclusively.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a thought-terminating cliche that serves to downplay the problem because "hurr durr the animals will be okay" (even though they actually won't since we're in the middle of the Anthropocene mass extinction, but never mind that) and to act as a derailment tactic.

[–] r1veRRR@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I don't read it that way, quite the opposite. So, so many people act like this is mostly about protecting the climate or the environment or animals, not about protecting our way of life. The way so many frame it as protecting the earth makes it so easy to make it sound optional.

But the world will be okay, it doesn't need protecting. It's the 8 billion humans that RELY on the world AS IT IS NOW that will be fucked. It's human protection, not ecological protection.

[–] bigkix@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who doesn't know of the Summer of 1931 where everything was so much hotter than today, but they just didn't have the technolgy back then to keep the records they made?...

[–] bigkix@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1936 had a heatwave that is one of the most severe heat waves in US modern history.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Yes and it was toppled by the heat wave in 2012. And the one in 2018. And the one in 2021.

However the 1936 one was an anomaly affecting primarily the US. Here we are talking about global temperatures, so it is affecting everyone.

[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah well this is frightening. In 25-30 years I will retire and now I need to raise the chances that I will live in a home with air conditioning in a country that -- currently -- hardly has buildings with air conditioning because it was not a necessity up until now. This will be an uphill battle. I don't want to die prematurely in a summer heat wave..