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I speak Polish, German, Swedish and English. 3 of them are Germanic languages so they were easy to learn because they are so closely related. Polish and German I learned as a child so it was kind of automatic.

Now I have to learn Korean and struggle so much! After 3 months I have learned about 100 words. Any tips how to get to the first 1000 words Ina reasonable time? Especially in a language where none of the words seem to resamle anything from my previous languages.

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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

TTBOMK, there are 3 things which change-the-rules, significantly.

  1. Pimsleur. Get the Pimsleur app, get the all-languages subscription, & do 1 session per day.

  2. Flashcards, or Anki, to get the visual imprinted into your automatic-mind, for any language you are trying to learn

Later..

  1. Tandem, where you find a speech-learning partner, you help other people learn your languages better, other people help you learn your target-language better.

Begin with Pimsleur & with some yt videos.

( they have no Sanskrit, which is the one I want, unfortunately )

Do well!

_ /\ _

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago

Anki is incredible for learning, it's one of my favourite tools.

If you're able to, make your own flashcards— it makes a huge difference. Bonus tip, if you're making your own flashcards, it can be useful to use pictures rather than a language you already know for the answer. For example, if I was making a card for the word "apple" in French, I'd have one side saying "une pomme", and another side with a picture of an apple. It makes it so that the new language isn't mediated by English as much, and I've found I get better at thinking in that language much quicker (especially for languages with grammar that's different to other languages I've studied)

[–] Toes@ani.social 2 points 2 months ago

Have you tried playing video games in the language you're learning?

There's a bunch of bilingual people in my life and they told me that's how they learned English.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The key to adquire vocab is to find a method that you're comfortable with, and that you don't mind repeating in a timely manner. Two that I personally like are:

semantic map

As you learn a new word, you write it down, with an explanation (translation, drawing, up to you), and then connect it to words that are conceptually related, that you already learned.

So for example. Let's say that you were learning English instead of Korean. And you just learned the word "chicken". You could do something like this:

You can extend those maps as big as you want, and also include other useful bits of info, like grammar - because you'll need that info later on. Also note what I did there with "(ptak)", leaving a blank for a word that you'd be planning to learn later on; when you do it, you simply write "bird" over it and done, another word in the map.

It's important to review your old semantic maps; either to add new words or to review the old ones.

flashcards

Prepare a bunch of small pieces of paper. Harder paper is typically better. Add the following to each:

  • a Korean word
  • a translation in a language that you're proficient with (it's fine to mix)
  • small usage details, as translations are almost never 100% accurate
  • some grammatical tidbit (e.g. is this a verb or a noun? If a verb: stative, descriptive, active, or copulative?)
  • a simple example sentence using that word
  • [optional] some simple drawing

Then as you have some free time (just after lunch, in the metro, etc.), you review those cards.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 2 months ago

I'm doing the flashcards but only with the word in Korean and English. Perhaps I should add more things to it.

The mindmap I've never heard of it, but it seems interesting because you make clusters of words in topics. I will try that out too.

Thanks for your practical tips!

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

My native language is Cantonese. Our education system has English in the syllabus. I did think I was good at it, until I became REALLY good at it after consuming English YouTube videos for an amount of time.

If you use it frequently enough, you will be good at it.

Don't know if the same applies for Korean, as the Internet is a very English-centered place.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Menus.

I find a menu from a local place and learn everything on the menu, I try to find a place with disposable menus so I can take home, and once I asked the restaurant if I could take their regular menu home to study.

Food is going to be something I experienced daily anyway when I'm in a new country so it's practical and helps me form a foundation.

Once I know the food items, common questions become natural extensions of the food items.

So menus are usually my base, and then I expand with a teaching app or YouTube videos and then I talk to people.

An incredibly effective method that is boring but quick is to choose one movie in the language you're studying, and watch it once per day, really paying attention to all of the speech.

That boosted my Mandarin like crazy in comprehension, but it can be a slog for the four to 6 weeks it takes.

[–] PeterLossGeorgeWall@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like to do similar with recipes and songs. Find something I like the sound of and make it then you know all the vocab for cooking related things. With music I find a band I like and listen to an album until I know the words.

Another good one is watching sports in the language you are learning. It's quicker because you can often infer what words are by knowing what just happened in the match. I find this a bit of a more natural way anyway. I appreciate that may not be easy for every language though.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, nice. I have done the song thing before, but never a recipe. Good idea.

I don't play sports ball much though so a lot of the advantages of your second suggestion might go over my head.

Watching a Kung Fu movie on repeat is a lot more my style haha

[–] PeterLossGeorgeWall@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well indeed watching movies helps. How about dodgeball! The best might be some comedy show you've seen before in your mother tongue so you even know what's going to happen. When you get good you notice which jokes they completely change because they make no sense in the other language.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Yea, good idea.

Sorry, I was referring to this other thing I mentioned in a different thread.

I'll take a movie dodgeball, any movie where the actors speak clearly is fine, and I watch that once a day for 4 to 6 weeks.

It boosts my comprehension like crazy, because I'm not just learning new words but my brain's getting used to recognizing the rhythm and syntax instinctually, but obviously you have to be pretty disciplined to go through with it because it gets to be boring!

Effective, and pretty rapid learning, but it's a real jog through molasses for a while there.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

The first thousand, formal learning. The next thousand, informal learning. The remainder, conversation or light reading in the language.

This is true for both of my non-native languages, Spanish and Latin. I never got past the formal learning stage in Japanese and without reinforcement it's mostly slipped away.

I've a smattering of phrases and pleasantries in French, German, Dutch, Lakota, and some Slavic languages, but that's just from exposure to native speakers.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Especially in a language where none of the words seem to resamle anything from my previous languages.

It's challenging, but if you can get a handle on the etymology of the language you're studying, that may help. I'm learning Chinese and the characters got a lot less intimidating once I learned about the radicals. Basically there are smaller characters embedded within all but the most simple characters, and often the character is telling some kind of story that uses all of the radicals to illustrate the meaning of the character.

For example 看 means "look", which seems pretty nonsensical. But then if you know that 手 means "hand" and 目 means "eye", then you can see that the "look" character is made up of the hand character over top of the eye character, like someone shielding their eyes from the sun as they look at something. And the hand and eye characters both look a bit more like the things they represent.

Similarly, if one was learning English, it may behoove them to learn a little bit about Latin and Greek roots, since a lot of our vocabulary comes from those. Maybe even read about some of the most common PIE roots. Once you learn about PIE roots you can start noticing them in all kinds of places in our language.

[–] Atin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I spoke Polish until I went to primary school as well as being a native English speaker.

[–] droning_in_my_ears@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Do a lot of reading and listening to material you find interesting. The learning happens in the background.