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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 117 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just close it entirely before you flush, people. The fact that there's a debate between fully open and half-open when both are inferior is baffling.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 months ago (12 children)

Counter point: I know plenty of people who close the lid and then flush, then leave. So when you open the toilet you're greeted by a floater or shit streaks over the bowl.

I flush with it open, check if it's clean (otherwise use the brush and flush again) then leave.

If you want to close the lid you'd have to close it, flush, open it and check, clean, close it again. Are you doing that?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 41 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Counterpoint, if you leave the lid open, you're flinging shit particles all over the bathroom, potentially onto toothbrushes.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Realistically they are going to get everywhere anyway, but I still close it in a harm reduction effort.

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[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That was tested with Mythbusters. When your toothbrush is nearby there was hardly a difference if you flush open or closed, sorry :)

[–] eltrain123@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

‘Hardly a difference’ and ‘no difference at all’ matters when it comes to ingesting doo doo particles. I opt for the absolute least amount possible… preferably none.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Ah, it had no lid, and unfortunately that part of the end-scene is cut off on YouTube. It was this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb-_KRh8asM

The control toothbrushes outside the bathroom had the same amount of fecal coliformes on them. That stuff is everywhere, it doesn't matter if you flush lid open or closed.

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[–] Linnce@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I had to present this paper for a fluid mechanics class during COVID and yes, the particles do spread. The radius of contamination was almost 1,5m.

Shared bathrooms in hospitals, rehabilitation centers, or assisted living facilities are used by patients who might be infected, thus making them a likely source of indoor cross-contamination. The pathogen-spreading potential of toilet flushes was investigated in toilets seeded with microorganisms that were later recovered from surfaces and in the air after flushing. The organisms in the bowl could not be fully cleared even after repeated flushing, and the droplets produced by flushing harbored the organisms that were used for seeding, which remained airborne and viable.

Recently, Johnson et al. (2013a) investigated different toilet designs and found that up to 145,000 sampled particles can be produced per flush.

Analysis of more recent data revealed that a large number of droplet emissions are not visible to the naked eye (d < 100 µm) (Figure 6b). These emissions account for more than 6 mL and can remain suspended in the air for a long time compared to the larger visible drops (with diameters up to 6 mm) that end up on surfaces.

The larger visible drops settle on surfaces within milliseconds, whereas the smaller, invisible drops are advected by local airflow (on the order of a few centimeters per second). Droplets settling on surfaces can be tackled in accordance with surface decontamination procedures of local infection control protocols. However, no system or protocol currently addresses air contamination. Furthermore, usual cleaning solutions not effective in neutralizing the most resistant pathogens, such as the spores of C. difficile, may even contribute to their dissemination by effectively lowering the surface tension, for example, down to 30 mN/m, compared to water at 72 mN/m, increasing the local Weber number and thus promoting fragmentation into either more or smaller droplets, depending on the fragmentation mechanism.

https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev-fluid-060220-113712

[–] null@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Source?

I'm pretty sure you're misremembering that episode. It didn't involve lid closed vs open.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Yes I am doing that because I'm not a lazy savage

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 53 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Counter point: close the lid to prevent things from accidentally falling in.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That also stops the spread of aerosolized fecal matter.

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[–] artemisRiverborne@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Close the lid bc flushing causes little particles to go into the air and I dont want to breathe that

[–] femtech@midwest.social 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry to inform you but that doesn't help. Myth busters busted that in 2013.

[–] Fish@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago
[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Counter counterpoint: Look before you sit.

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[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh man, you uncovered a memory. The first reddit downvote I received way back when was on a comment where I mentioned that closing the toilet lid makes mold/mildrew growth in the bowl more likely, particularly in humid environments.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Luckily, there's a simple way to avoid this. It's called "clean your toilet".

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago

#ScariestMomentOf2016

Oh sweet summer child

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 34 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Put the lid down. Which is why it exists.

Once you have dogs, the lid becomes something you use.

[–] Tilgare@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do people want to look inside a nasty toilet in the first place? Why even INVITE the possibility of your deodorant, lotion, phone, or cat falling in to a perpetually open toilet? I'm a very lazy man, but this is too far. Close your fucking toilet.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

My pet budgie did once take a nosedive into an open toilet. Luckily, it was not full of shit at the moment, and the bird was swiftly fished out and dried off. But yeah, since then I close the lid even when there's 2 doors between the bird and the toilet

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

this is what it feels like reading a post from a mastodon.social user except they have a character limit of like 2 so instead of separating the #hashtags they will #PutThemInline #LikeThis so you get an #aneurysm reading a post

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

I don’t know for sure, but it looks like Facebook.

[–] gregor@gregtech.eu 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Gladaed 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They sat on a toilet with the lid up and just put their ass in the toilet instead of not doing that.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

... And then they relearned the habit of looking down.

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 11 points 3 months ago (9 children)

When a female friend of mine used to come over she would often leave the bathroom door open and the toilet seat down with the lid up. I didn't like that because my cat used to drink toilet water. Also, when you flush, particles of what you're flushing go everywhere. The lid minimises this. They proved it on Mythbusters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFzgNSO6t6c

So I understand the feeling of someone not leaving the toilet how they found it when they use it in your home after being asked to stop it.

But mine was for reasons I've just explained.

You're facing the toilet when you walk up to it. Surely you can see what state the seat is and change it accordingly? Can someone please explain to me why the toilet seat being up or the lid being down is stereotypically such a problem for women?

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The post mentions it is at 2 am so our toilet tumbler may have entered the bathroom without any lights and just went through the motions.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Seems like a dumb thing to do

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[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am the proud owner of a 90's era cock.

To keep it running efficiently I pee sitting down.

Why would I stand up when I could chill out for a moment?

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Like, manufactured in the 90's or being put to use in the 90's?

[–] scarilog@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

He peed out his ass for the first couple of decades of life

[–] teft@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Did his knees collapse? If my butt touched cold porcelain I would just stand up and put the seat down. How did he get sucked into the damn thing? Was this a vacuum toilet on the space station?

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If you fall in, your butt doesn't hit cold porcelain any more than your foot would hit a missing stair. It just falls through the unexpected space, and if you can't catch with your hands quick enough it lands in the water. Sitting is already falling backwards, far as your balance is concerned. Especially in a familiar seat, you're not poised to stand right up again mid-sit. Your center of weight moves behind your heels, and it's difficult to stop. Your knees alone won't save you, you have to pull your upper body forward, and on the toilet there's often nothing in front of you to grab. Add in being half-asleep, in the dark, and it's quite a rude awakening.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How wide are your toilets? Even if i lift the seat up and sit directly on the porcelain i wouldn’t enter the bowl, i’d sit on the rim and I’m not a particularly wide individual. Also if your knees can’t stop you mid sit then you should work on leg strength.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

We get it. You're thicc. You got the badonk. Stop humble bragging.

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[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

this is why I'm anal about putting the lid down. that way i get to feel superior and tell the women in my life that they're the ones using the potty wrong

jk, i think i only care because autism, but I'm too timid to actually say anything and would probably be a dick if i did. i just quietly go in and close the lid after others sometimes. but like, not too soon after, that would also be weird.

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