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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Why in the world are people paying for this? You can get displays like this for digital photos that don't even require an internet connection, much less a subscription. Is this how far people have gone in their unwillingness to learn to use technology that isn't some cloud/app based bullshit? Just put some pictures on an sd card and be done with it.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Great suggestion, but then when I want to send new photos to Grandma I have to drive all the way across the country to pop in a new SD card because last time we tried letting her do it she jammed the card in backwards and broke the card and reader.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My wife bought internet connected frames for family. We set the frames up on a visit and the pictures are delivered automatically to the non technical relatives as we upload new ones.

That said, I'd never use an echo for this, that's super invasive.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm going to be honest. Outside of elderly relatives on the cognitive decline, the "inability" to transfer files to a SD card is nothing other than laziness. Any functioning person that's capable of making themselves a PB&J sandwich is more than capable of it. They choose to all of a sudden be stupid the moment a computer enters the discussion. It's a choice made purely out of laziness.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

money, baby

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In September of 2023, Amazon announced the Echo Show 8 Photos Edition. It looked just like the regular Echo Show 8 smart display/speaker but cost $10 more. Why? Because of its ability to show photos on the home screen for as long as you want—if you signed up for a $2 monthly subscription to Amazon's PhotosPlus. Now, about a year after releasing the Echo Show 8 Photos Edition, Amazon is announcing that it's discontinuing PhotosPlus. That means Echo Show 8 Photos Edition users will be forced to see ads instead of their beloved pics.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Choose to live only in a cloud, require everything to be "smart", and you're inviting this shit upon yourself. There's absolutely zero serious reason to buy internet connected frame beyond tech illiteracy, mindless consumerism, or sheer laziness.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oof we have thousands of these at my work. I would happily light them on fire but for the whole needing a job thing and staying out of jail thing

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

what use do these things have in the work place? unless amazon sent them for free because guaranteed captive audience for ads?

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry... The company I work for has a contract with that company named after a giant river. We are wzrehousing, packaging, shipping, all that shit. Not sure why any of this is happening.

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When do people learn and stick with the smaller tributaries?

[–] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 2 points 2 weeks ago

Just don’t go chasing waterfalls

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

doesn't most of amazon's revenue come from AWS? why do they even keep trying with these stupid home surveillance/advertisement gadgets that no one asked for?

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Owning that space in peoples homes is the point, I bought them just for controlling my lights via voice, but the screen started as a clock and weather report and now shows adverts almost constantly.

I’m looking at HomeAssistant as a replacement but you have to realise that unless you are tech savvy, you probably don’t even know HomeAssistant exists let alone know how to set it up for your requirements.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not only that but it requires constant maintenance.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it just requires people to run normal fucking updates like literally EVERY piece of software does, even the canned bullshit from corpos.

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Having to do any manual step is beyond what the Echo devices require, they just reboot themselves randomly one day and boom, a whole new new set of features for advertisers.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ohh, fully auto updates turned on by default on a shitty IoT device? A hacker's wet dream.

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not sure who you think you are advising here, but I suspect Amazon is making sure their echo devices are on the high end of security, any vulnerability will get a lot of press attention.

For Home Assistant and other more open devices this is the problem, you either accept a lot of tinkering ensuring it’s updated, working and secure, or it fails the wife/parent test.

Apple, Google or Amazon devices are just too easy in comparison, but you have to put up with the intrusion and ads.

A lot more people are willing to sacrifice data and adverts for convenience.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Everyone is finding out the hard way that it is a lot worse than some ads.

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

What has happened?

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Even with home assistant set up, I still have Google assistant handling the voice control aspect. I might be wrong but I don't think home assistant comes with any voice controls. You still need something else if you want to control it with voice.

Edit: it looks like there is something built into HA called Assist. I tried it a bit and while the basics work, I find it harder to use than google assistant.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

you might want to read that book "the circle". so scandalous it got banned somehweherehre. (actually it's very tame)

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalists love ONE thing in the world.

It's not good products.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It used to. Now it's more evenly distributed between the various entities.