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Sorry commies, capitalists beat you to landlord hate! (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
submitted 6 months ago by naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Capitalism is feudalism with a marketing team.

Land/capital shouldn't be more important than people. Economies are supposed to be lowly tool of a society to maximize the equitable and efficient distribution of goods and services within a society for the benefit of the citizens of said society, not a few thousand sociopath families at most of society's expense as it is.

Our society (the US in my case, but increasingly the entire west) literally lives in perpetual servitude to one of its broken tools. A catastrophe should have leaders coming out saying they'll take every measure to protect their people and society, not their fucking economy and it's quarterly private profit expectations.

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago

You are not permanently tied to your landlord, nor is your landlord your judge and president. You don't usually work for your landlord, either.

Capitalism is different. It still sucks and exists because of the squeezing out of surplus value. It isn't feudalism.

As for economies being lowly tools, they're not. They're quite literally the most important part of society. They're how we eat, drink, and survive. Unfortunately we live in a class society, and have done so ever since a couple of dudes during the dawn of agriculture started racketeering. As a result, "a few thousand sociopath families" have distributed resources in their own favour for a very long time, and will continue to do so until class society and the state are abolished.

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay.... What is your proposed plan to fix this problem?

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

let LAND_PRIVATE_OWNERSHIP = False

Obviously... reactionaries these days aren't even trying. smh my head.

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That.... Isn't exactly a "plan". Can you elaborate on how we will get there?

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Right click the society, select open directory, locate the society.config file, right click and edit it. Set the variable there.

Do I have to spell everything out?

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Very funny.

I guess I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to change things, instead of just bitching and making memes on the internet. That's on me.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you should read a few books instead of antagonistically demanding to be educated in the comment section of a joke?

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We've gotten very far from the topic on hand, but sure, can you recommend me a few books I haven't read?

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

what do you want to learn? How revolutions work and their stumbling blocks? How different societies have or might manage land? how we got here?

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I want to learn how you would go from your current system, wherever you are in the world, to one without landlords. I'll cut the bullshit and just openly say that I don't think you've thought it through.

There are about a million pieces in the middle that are missing, and I promise you that none of them are pretty.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If there was a step by step plan with 100% certainty people would just do that obviously, but that's a ridiculous standard to have.

There are many approaches to try and soften things: from political agitation for heavy taxes on multiple properties and inheritance taxes to rent caps and so on. Ultimately though, as is currently the case, the landed class will use violence the moment they feel sufficiently threatened and any movement that wants to succeed will need to be prepared to meet that.

Like you can and will be killed or gaoled forever if you resist being homeless sufficiently hard because a piece of paper says that someone has exclusive rights to land they're not personally using. All the rights we currently enjoy were won through sacrifice. Unionists were killed for sick leave and holidays, people were killed for voting rights, people were killed to be openly gay etc. Dismantling these tools of oppression and violence will involve violence, it is naive to think otherwise but we don't need to go there before offering peaceful redistribution.

[–] TAYRN@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I understand and absolutely agree with everything you've said, but I'm not asking for 100% certainty. I'm asking for A plan, no matter how absurd it is.

Every successful revolution in the history of the world has had an endgame. I'm not sure I see yours.

[–] SOMETHINGSWRONG@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Sure. Increase property taxes by 400% if the owner does not list the home as their primary residence. This frees up the small homes. If it doesn’t work, keep fucking increasing it.

Implement immediate federal rent controls to tie increases to inflation. Establish a federal rent oversight agency where landlords must file appeals to prove their property value increased or prove they added value to the residence to increase rent beyond inflation.

The crux of this issue is that it requires leftists to be in government. I vote for every leftist on my ballot, local state or federal. And only the leftists.

This doesn’t do anything about the fact that capital has spent the last 80 years violently suppressing global leftism which has left the US with two parties: right-wing extremist, and outright fascist.

See, pretty simple when you don’t act all cute “just asking questions” full well knowing you’re a bad faith actor and will simply handwave away any concrete evidence put forth.

Except you don’t give a shit. Nothing was going to change your mind at all. Yeah sure you “agree” with all that.

Pretty goddamn funny how you ghouls always come in pretending to agree and just seeking one more info on tired old topics that have been addressed thousands of times already.

Here’s a tip, leftists don’t act like that. It’s pretty obvious when you do it.