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Warning: we advise lemmy.world administrators to wait to update to 0.19.5 due to an incompatibility with the latest Mastodon releases

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As it emerged in this thread, messages from the latest versions of mastodon are not interpreted correctly by the latest Lemmy releases

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I hit them up in our internal chat! Thanks for the heads up!

[–] notizie@poliverso.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

@jordanlund Yes, it would be appropriate to file an issue with the Mastodon staff, but I haven't had time to do so yet. If someone could do it before me, that would be great...

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

❤️❤️🙏🙏❤️❤️

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mastodon doing changes that are incompatible with the Threadiverse? Must be a day that ends in Y

[–] notizie@poliverso.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

@yessikg I understand that this bug might seem like a deliberately hostile action against the threadverse, but the reality is that ActivityPub is objectively a shithole 🤣 and with every good step forward, there is the risk of stepping on a shit!

These problems could simply arise from the fact that Mastodon is starting to really work on the management of Activitypub groups. It is therefore appropriate to report any incompatibilities to the Mastodon staff, so that they can correct their roadmap

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

from what i can tell (from the work in progress pull request) mastodons group implementation explicitly does not aim for compatibility with lemmy

other than that, i agree on activitypub being crap in terms of making interoperability easy

[–] notizie@poliverso.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@ShittyKopper rightly mastodon cannot and should not aim for full compatibility with Lemmy and Piefed.

In fact, Lemmy has some unique features (such as the intentionally limited management of crossposting) that cannot be managed.

However, it would be appropriate and above all ethical, for Mastodon groups to be compatible with Friendica groups, Gup groups and Mbin magazines.

This would allow mastodon users to continue using the Activity pub groups of other platforms, including Lemmy.

I remember in fact that even WordPress (which at the moment, represents the most important novelty of the Fediverse) is perfectly able to publish on the Lemmy communities and on the Friendica groups!

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

iirc mastodon was implementing smithereen's flavor of groups. no idea if they ended up changing course or anything (not following masto dev tok closely) but the way they work is fundamentally different from how Lemmy and compatible groups work

[–] Fitik@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

it's still a pull request on GitHub, however I think Lemmy 1.0 will be released sooner than it will be merged

[–] JupiterRowland@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These problems could simply arise from the fact that Mastodon is starting to really work on the management of Activitypub groups.

And re-invent the wheel once more, preferably in a proprietary way that's as incompatible with the rest of the Fediverse as possible but sold to the Mastodon users as the Fediverse gold standard.

It is therefore appropriate to report any incompatibilities to the Mastodon staff, so that they can claim the other side is broken unless the other side has rock-solid proof that it's actually Mastodon that's doing it wrong.

FTFY

[–] notizie@poliverso.org 1 points 1 week ago

@JupiterRowland Unfortunately your acid comments don't seem too far from reality... 😁 😄 🤣

But for now, I'll pretend I didn't hear them 😅

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] notizie@poliverso.org 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

cc @ruud @MichelleG @jelloeater85 @Xilynna@lemmy.world @Thekingoflorda @lwadmin @Rooki @kersploosh @MrKaplan @atomboy@lemmy.world @doccod@lemmy.world @lwreport@lemmy.world @elm@lemmy.world

[–] ruud@mastodon.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@notizie Thank you, I'll inform the Mastodon devs and wait with updating Lemmy.World until this is fixed.

[–] notizie@poliverso.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

@ruud Awesome! I am so grateful! I am on vacation and I haven't been able to find the time to do this yet! ♥️

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

*sips coffee while waiting for the 1.0 release*

[–] elena@poliverso.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@notizie oh my I picked the right week to do more Fediverse interoperability tests between content aggregators and the rest of the Fediverse /s 🙃