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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Aww. Poor media. No massive riots. You wanted it so badly. You've been hyping it up for weeks and weeks.

You're just going to have to find another way to get a bunch of idiots to sit and watch your commercials all day. Sorry.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fox will have to run the story how these protester have no loisonse for their gathering.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fox News made it out as though my city (Seattle) was in complete anarchy because there were people camping in one of the more popular parks in the middle of the city, which is near a police station. And they graffitied the police station.

I know multiple people who believed it sincerely, including my mother-in-law. And I'm just like, Jesus christ, people.... It was a bunch of college students out for summer camping in the park. There were artists and people playing guitar. Basically modern hippies.

That neighborhood always has some crime because it's a bar hopping neighborhood. The one guy who got shot at the time that the hippies were camping had nothing to do with the hippies camping.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 50 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well yeah. When lefties march on leftishy groups, no one gets hurt.

Violence is all the fault of the right wing.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Underrated comment

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Surprised to see police acting reasonable.

But there's a shit ton of pressure on them to not repeat 68.

At least Harris and Walz are open to dialogs with protestors, and Walz was doing that long before he was tapped for VP.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Surprised to see police acting reasonable.

Yeah, same, after all the other heinous shit we've seen cops do to protesters at other times over the years this has been incredibly refreshing.

Along with 68, I think a big part of it is not wanting to repeat 2020. It took an insane number of wrongful arrests and incidents of brutality being caught on video but it might have finally temporarily sunk in for police leadership in one city that getting aggressive with protesters just makes them get aggressive back, but if you keep force to an absolute minimum people will usually just get their frustrations out of their system verbally and connect with some like minded people and everyone gets to go home without any black eyes or broken bones or shit.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. Having that captain or whatever there (no idea what the acronym meant) does a lot to hold police accountable.

But I think the only reason he's out there on the streets is pressure from Chicago politicians.

I dont think he'd do it on his own, or that police would be as nonviolent as we saw yesterday without that pressure from Dem politicians to not turn this into a giant shit show.

Most protests are nonviolent and would stay that way without incitement and outright violence from police through things like kettling.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's important to remember that of the hundreds of BLM protests, only the ones where something newsworthy actually happened got reported by the media.

If something never makes the news when everyone behaves, then your brain only ever receives the negative signals, reinforcing the human brain's natural bias for remembering negative outcomes over positive ones. This leads to an inaccurate picture of what the world is actually like.

This is why statistical analysis is so important. Numbers are harder to fudge than memories.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, there was a ton of news reporting on allegations made by police against protesters, very little news coverage of the numerous times police brutalized protesters, and almost no coverage of the majority of protests where it was just people saying chants and waving signs while cops got paid time and a half to sit around and watch them.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm mostly surprised to see Chicago cops acting reasonable. I'm from here. The Union must have gotten the stern talking to. For those that don't know, the police union in Chicago is basically a second government. They are stupidly powerful. I'm pro-union in general, but that particular union needs to be broken up.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Bruh, that high ranking cop ain't on the front lines to keep protestors under control, it's to keep the cops under control...

He isn't there because he wants to be, it's from pressure of the city government who are doing it because they're getting pressure from the DNC.

And he knows if he's not physically there, cops are gonna cop.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They were expecting tens of thousands (40,000 by one count) - which was the estimate hyped by the protest organizers. They got a few thousands ("more than 2,000"). The police were probably over-prepared, less threatened, and therefore less reactionary. It seems like the protesters behaved themselves pretty well, although that's not always a guarantee against police brutality.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

If Biden hadn't stepped down, it might have been 40k protestors...

Kamala isn't perfect, and we won't know what she's really like till she's in office.

But she's at least open to a dialog instead of siccing police on protestors and telling Dems that don't like her to vote for trump if they don't want to vote for her.

I think a lot of people just don't realize how much Biden was hurting the party.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Without incident" is a funny way to phrase mass arrests of peaceful protestors and journalists...

https://theintercept.com/2024/08/20/dnc-protesters-hospitalized-police-violence-chicago/

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Just as a point of clarification - that article seems to be talking about protests on Tuesday, whereas this article is talking about protests Wednesday night. My general understanding is that there was a permitted and police escorted protest Monday near the DNC convention site, the one in your article Tuesday which wasn't permitted and went near the Israeli consulate and ended up with hospitalized protesters, and then this one Wednesday which also wasn't permitted but marched more towards the DNC convention site and (to the best of my knowledge at this point) didn't end up with anyone needing hospitalization.

The things that article describes happening to protesters and journalists are unacceptable and demand police accountability, but it seems like those things didn't happen Wednesday night for what that's worth.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago

It's almost like people can coexist and express their opinions peacefully when the police don't have panic attacks/roid rages at the first sign that somebody dislikes them, or treat your average suburbanite like they're some enemy combatant, and instead just chill the fuck out.