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According to a Wall Street Journal report, banks that loaned Elon Musk $13 billion to buy Twitter haven't been able to sell the debt.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

When you owe the bank $100 thats your problem.

When you owe the bank 13 billion dollars, thats the banks problem.

When you then use that money to create a platform of hate, racism, and facism, thats humitys problem.

[–] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's like yin/yang except with corn. Humity/hominy.

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Zier@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Hey Patrick! [winks]

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Please add this for real life precisions sake: If the bank is big enough, it's tax payers problem.

[–] rem26_art@fedia.io 34 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

the ability for institutions like that to sell debt has always been wild to me. Like, can i sell my debt? Please?

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's not money they owe, but money owed to them; backed by some form of contract. Your credit card contract for example.

Person A owes person B money, let's say $100. Person B sells that debt to Person C for $80.

Person A still owes the same $100, just to a different person.

Person B gets paid now instead of waiting for Person A to pay up, but lost $20 on the deal.

Person C invested $80, hopefully gets paid the full $100, not having to chase down a delinquent debtor, and profits $20 out of the deal.

Nobody wants to be person C when it comes to the Debt Twitter owes.

If you had someone that owed you money (or anything else really), you could sell that debt, assuming you can find a buyer for it. Banks just do this on a much larger scale than $100 at a time.

[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Another example are collection agencies:

  • Frenchie owes Artie $50,000, but he cannot collect.
  • Tony pays Artie $6,000 to buy the debt.
  • Then Tony visits Frenchie and he gets the $50,000 with a bit of gabagool

Free Cannoli

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 22 points 3 weeks ago

Yes you can sell your debt as a consumer. People do it all of the time.

However, the terminology is different.

We call it "taking out a loan".

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Say you have a credit card debit and you take out a new card because it has a free credit transfer offer going on. You're selling your debt right there.

Another scenario is you have a loan and refinance it using a new loan.

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Might be? This is the worst investment they ever made, and they know it, mostly because they've speaking publicly like this, because usually they bury the lead - to protect their other investments.

International financiers are really the worst.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'm just loving watching it though.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

they could foreclosure it and sell it for 1/3 what Elon paid to get their money back

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 9 points 3 weeks ago

That's assuming that anyone would pay even that much for the burnt-out husk of Twitter.