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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One of my kids is a huge Gravity Falls fan and has recently acquired The Book of Bill. For some reason, Bill's anecdote about silly straws reminded me of the grok discourse:

FUN FACT: When you use a silly straw to murder someone, it becomes a serious straw!

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago

I wonder how soon we’re going to hit the “we have team $foo building that internally since we can’t use $serviceX for that (externally hosted has security issues)” phase of corporate fafo

why am I thinking of this? oh, no reason. just pondering the cyclic nature of history I guess you could say.

[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago (8 children)

OT: whats the best way to explain rationalism et all to complete normal people with no connection to tech?

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago (8 children)

It's a little bit like a tiny version of the Mormons if Joseph Smith had read the collected works of Isaac Asimov instead of the Bible and also his name was Yud.

Or to go with less of a sneer, the Rationalist/TESCREAL/Californian Ideology is a loose grouping of fringe beliefs rooted in old-school science/tech fetishism with a lot of science fiction overlays and libertarian/reactionary politics that effectively define "let ultrawealthy tech capitalists do whatever they want" as the only reasonable choice and make it a moral imperative.

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Personally I might try explaining some of the foundational stuff before going into the big R. Scientism, utilitarianism would be my starting points.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Techish (I would use the word techbro here, but that needs an explantion even) people who want to make their fictional science fiction utopia real, but got so scared of their own science fiction ideas going wrong and killing everybody they started a cult around rationality, sort of a Vulcans fan club. They have a pattern where they think they and their methods are smarter and better than actual experts.

When trying to do their own research with an open mind, but they left their minds so open that all kinds of sexists and racists crawled in. Who are welcomed as long as they are verbose enough.

And to close it off, Musk is a fan.

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago

ABSOLUTELY CURSED

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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Today in finding statistical association in text data is not the same as reading

Your name appeared in a lot of articles about terrible crimes. You know who else's name appears in those articles?

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago

oh noes my throne

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

what’s the sound of one-zirp-popping, and is it any different to hundreds? (archive)

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