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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 192 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)
[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You should post this to !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com before I pirate this and post it there

[–] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

That's the user named Piracy, at least on Jerboa. Try !Piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Goddammit lemmy.world won't federate lemmy.dbzer0.com

Time to make a yet another account

[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago

that's mr. piracy to you

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[–] Cyv_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yarr harr fiddle dee dee!

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I dived back into torrenting a few days ago. Fucking awesome.

[–] Chestrade@lemmy.world 71 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Piracy is wrong and should never be done. I am doing some research on how people actually pirate shows. Can anyone tell me how they do it, for research purposes?

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

As an avid member of the selfhosting community, I actually have a lot of familiarity with this, since tools for downloading, playing and streaming media are a very popular thing to self host.

So my understanding - entirely third hand of course - is that the following setup is used very widely:

1a. A torrent client such as Transmission or Deluge is run inside of a Docker container alongside a VPN client. Because of the nature of containers, the torrent client is unable to access the internet at all if the VPN isn't running. Torrent clients are, of course, intended for allowing users to share media that they legally can access and share, but their underlying technology unfortunately offers no way to verify that.

1b. Either alternatively, or in addition, a usenet client is set up in the same way. I'm a little less familiar with how usenet works to be honest.

  1. Next, the user sets up a "Servarr" stack. This consists of multiple different self hosted apps, all of which can be run very easily using Docker. These programs scan and monitor the user's entire media collection, and then automatically download new episodes of watched shows, download movies when an appropriate release is available (the user might, for example, configure to ignore cam releases and wait for digital). I'm told they even have calendars to show when content will be available. The user adds everything as easily as searching for the name of a show. It'll even automatically pick up new episodes and seasons as they air. Servarr sends all its download requests to the torrent or usenet clients, and then moves the files into an appropriate storage folder when they are ready. It also monitors existing files and replaces them when better quality releases are found.

2b. (For those unfamiliar, Docker is a kind of all in one platform for running lots of server apps together on the same PC, configured using very simple config files called Compose files. The Compose file contains all the settings for the app in one place, and Docker runs it in a way that prevents it from conflicting with, or interacting with, anything else on your system).

  1. Finally Plex or Jellyfin are setup (probably through Docker again, for convenience) to allow all the media to be streamed wherever the user is, just like having your own personal Netflix. Of course, these programs were designed to allow users to stream their own legally owned media to themselves only, but there's no real way to control what users load into them. From there the files can be viewed easily through a web interface or a multitude of apps for phones, tablets, smart TVs and so on. Servarr has hooks that automatically inform Jellyfin or Plex to update their media libraries when new files, are added.

  2. Optionally, something called Ombi is added to this setup. It's a little helper program that allows people to request media be added to the download / watch queue without needing access to any of the backend management (say, for giving family members an easy way to add media to the system). It even includes an optionally approval system so the owner can have final say over what is being added. I imagine this is very useful for people with children, or who are giving access to friends, for example.

Edit: I should note for completeness that the hardware requirements for all of this are quite minimal. Typically a Raspberry Pi 4 or similar is used, with a USB hard drive or a NAS for storage.

The net effect of all this is that a new episode of The Boys goes up on Amazon and almost the same afternoon it's there on the Jellyfin front page, waiting to be watched. I'm told the convenience is, if anything, higher than that of using streaming services as all the media arrives in one place (I'd imagine thats a huge plus to kids and less technical family who don't enjoy having to remember which service a particular show is on, especially with some services renaming themselves constantly).

Of course, someone could also purchase blu rays of movies and shows, convert them to media files using a program like Handbrake or MakeMKV, and then add those to their Jellyfin or Plex library. Of course getting good conversions is fiddly, so maybe better to just buy the blu rays and then download a file that someone else has ripped for you already. Much less hassle that way, and you still legally own a copy. But I shouldn't be editorializing here, like you said this is entirely academic. And who knows, buying a blu ray of Wish probably also gives Disney a legal right to murder you according to their lawyers.

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[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 weeks ago

On a note completely unrelated to this comment. MullvadVPN was raided by the police and was unable to provide logs and accepts cash by mail without providing personal information.

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[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 3 weeks ago

Piracy save lives!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You only have to worry if you subscribe to Disney+. Piracy doesn't have you agreeing to shit. 😌

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Unfortunately if you ever used Disney+ before, it's already too late. You could start pirating all Disney content right now and still be forced into arbitration with them if they murder your loved ones. Only people who were pirating from the beginning are protected. Lesson learned, I guess!

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

This is such a misinformation it's bothering me so much.

No, Disney can't kill your wife because you watch Disney+ and sign their TOS.

Yes, Disney can make it looks like an accident and you can do nothing about it.

Just don't have wife, problem solve.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Disney knows that part of the contract is unenforceable; they're just daring someone to try and outspend them on legal fees and court costs. Everyone knows US courts are pretty light handed on fining corpos. Whatever costs the mouse incurs, they'll make it up in at most a few days.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Disney knows that part of the contract is unenforceable

All a court has to do is agree that the claim must go to arbitration. Then the private Disney arbiter can squash the claim.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The part of the contract that is obviously unenforceable is the idea that signing up for a Disney+ trial a year ago forces you into binding arbitration over an issue at a Disney theme park today.

Disney really shot themselves in the foot by even trying to claim this. They have a much, much stronger claim (morally still abhorrent, and legally still far from certain, but much better) with the fact that he had signed up for a Disney app in connection to the theme park itself. If they had stuck to only that claim they’d have an equal chance of legal success, and not gotten nearly as much bad press.

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[–] RangerJosie@sffa.community 11 points 3 weeks ago

I can't speak for OP. But if we're talking about political donations. Disney kinda has a hand in a lot of women dying.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

The same LIBERALS who hate WIFE-KILLING also don't like me having MULTIPLE WIVES so I can WATCH MY SHOWS

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thought this was satire....

It is not

This is straight up some Vought shit.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

It's the type of thing The Onion couldn't come up with

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The fact that a company can get away with killing someone because someone else in their household subbed to their TV service is fucked and we need to fucking kill that fucking bullshit, whether we will is another thing entirely.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait.... This isn't a joke scenario this actually happened?

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The TL;DR is that a lady died in a Disney park due to being served a dish with shellfish cross-contamination.

The park was negligent in serving her the food, because she had clarified with the server that she was allergic to shellfish, and the server assured her there wouldn’t be any cross-contamination, and that the kitchen would take proper safety precautions. Either the server didn’t relay that to the kitchen, or the kitchen didn’t do their due diligence. But either way, someone employed by Disney seriously fucked up, and a person died as a result.

The (now widowed) husband sued for wrongful death. Disney’s defense has basically been “he can’t sue us, because he agreed to binding arbitration. He downloaded a free trial of Disney+ on his Xbox two years ago, and that 7-day free trial’s ToS had a binding arbitration clause. Even though the free trial only lasted 7 days, the binding arbitration clause didn’t have an end date so it is in force in perpetuity.” Basically, Disney claims that he (and her estate) can’t sue Disney for killing his wife, because of a free trial that he never even subscribed to; He deleted the app from his Xbox after the free trial ended.

It’s currently in the courts now, with a judge set to rule on whether or not the binding arbitration clause should apply. And if they set the precedent that it applies, then capitalism has truly won and we’ll be in the end-stages where you’re not allowed to sue any company ever, because they all have binding arbitration clauses.

[–] experbia@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

what exactly do these corporations think aggrieved widows and widowers will do when they go to hold companies to justice and are told "no justice for you peasant, get out"?

do they think everyone who has just lost their life will go "ok... I'll just live with that then, thank you Disney"? lmao

i can't understand for the life of me why all these organizations want to remove the systems we built as a society to act as sensible alternatives to violence. do they want to be violenced?

[–] goatbeard@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you stop teaching history; they don't understand how things got to be how they are.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago

Either the server didn’t relay that to the kitchen, or the kitchen didn’t do their due diligence. But either way, someone employed by Disney seriously fucked up, and a person died as a result.

Given what I know about the restaurant industry, the chef probably thought the lady was just being "bratty" and made up her allergy to get a "special order", and ignored the substitution request. Sadly I know too many "proud chefs" who just straight up ignore these things and the consequences when they trust their instinct instead of the order is

That said, I've also heard of careless wait staff.... had a friend of a friend go to a restaraunt and order diet coke. He felt light-headed after his third glass and realized his coke tasted "off", when asked the waitress just told him

"Oh, I just went ahead and gave you regular since you're kinda skinny anyway."

Bro was skinny yes, but that's not why he ordered diet. He was actually diabetic and had to go to the hospital to avoid dying as the "light headedness" was his body starting to going to shock.

Needless to say, she was fired and the restaraunt was sued for the medical bills.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

The best argument for piracy ever

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wouldn't they already have the right to do it because you've watched the first season?

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)
[–] LowleeKun 20 points 3 weeks ago

On a sidenote: You do not need to have a gf or wife to care about human rights. Powers that want to strip large parts of the population of their rights also want to controll you.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

time to sail the high seas

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 3 weeks ago

I miss the piracy era where you could tell which one has the virus because it's the wrong file size :(

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Never been better weather for it!

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Of you watched season 1 they can already do it.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The only thing crazier than the conditions allowed in these contracts are the fact that cancelling the service does not cancel the contract.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

Very cool, very legal.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

But I've never watched Andor 😭

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like you got a bad deal

Lost your wife including the memories of her AND haven't seen Andor

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But you thought about it. That means you used Disney IP and are therefore bound by the terms and conditions. And yes, I just made that up, but if you bribe enough politicians, the law becomes whatever you want it to be.

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[–] artic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Someone8765210932@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Not letting Disney kill your wife "for free". They are going to kill her either way, the only question is if they have to pay some money later.

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