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  • Ukraine knows how to exploit Russian President Vladimir Putin's weak spots.
  • Its invasion of Kursk undermined Putin's image as a strongman protector of Russian security.
  • The attacks have the potential to erode Russians' support for Putin, an expert said.
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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 77 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It's hard to overstate just how dangerous this is for Putin. A large part of why Russians tolerate him is because Putin Make Russia Stronk. Take that away and what has he got left?

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This act by Ukraine physically pierced the echo-chamber that is Russian disinformation. The viral media from this event is going to reach pretty far into Russia, and is definitely karma delivery a hefty slap as a wake-up call.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Idk how many Russians do you think actually know the war jumped borders? If I were Putin that would be very controlled information

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 months ago

It's being openly discussed on state media, this isn't a secret.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's not how Russian information control works. As the internet age became a thing they quickly realized that they simply don't have the resources to prevent people from accessing information. Instead their model is to tell the truth and a lie at the same time. Literally, one state run paper will print a true story, the other will print a totally fabricated version of the same events. What this does is it undermines the idea of "truth" as a meaningful concept. It's the whole "alternative facts" / "fake news media" thing. You don't prevent the information existing, you just train people to pick and choose the version of reality they like best.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In appearing to "make russia stronk", he entrenched himself, so it will take some effort to remove.

It's the dictator classic: use lies to get to power and when people discover they were lies all along, it is already too late.

[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The entire government, I suspect.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It's not an invasion. I keep saying this.

[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Counteroffensive special military operation.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Summer vacation.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (5 children)
[–] abcd 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I propose „defensive special operation“

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

So "Ukraine's defensive special operation of Russia" - and it will be clear that this is specifically about the recent push onto Russian soil (which is a big change and a big deal)?

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The one Russian citizens are legally banned from calling it, a war, the one they started 2 and a half years ago. It's still the same thing, they are just more clearly losing it now.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

De-militarization operation

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

As others have said, to use Russia's own terminology when they invaded the Ukraine, it's not an invasion, merely a special military operation. Should be over in 3 days or so.

[–] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Border raid

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can you elaborate? This action seems to meet the definition of invasion, but I'm curious to know what you're getting at.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

'Special military operation', to use Russia's own terminology

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 3 months ago

wait their going after trump now?! /s