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I'll go first. Mine is that I can't stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree. It's like being continually reminded that I am in a movie. I swear the success of that movie has directly lead to every blockbuster having to have a joke every 30 seconds

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[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Terminator is better than Terminator 2, and as cool as it is Terminator 2 should never have been made (or should have a different script).

I know the mob is raising the pitchfork, but hear me out, there are two main ways time travel can solve the grandparent paradox, these are Singular Timeline (i.e. something will prevent you from killing your grandfather) or Multiple Timeline (you kill him but in doing so you created an alternate timeline). Terminator 2 is clearly a MT model, because they delay the rise of Skynet, but Terminator is a ST movie. The way you can understand it's an ST is because the cause-consequences form a perfect cycle (which couldn't happen on an MT story), i.e. Reese goes back to save Sarah -> Reese impregnates Sarah and teaches her how to defend herself from Terminators and avoid Skynet -> Sarah gives birth to and teaches John -> John uses the knowledge to start a resistance -> The resistance is so strong that Skynet sends a Terminator back in time to kill Sarah -> Reese goes back to save Sarah...

The awesome thing about Terminator is how you only realise this at the end of the Movie, that nothing they did mattered, because that's what happened before, the timeline is fixed, humanity will suffer but they'll win eventually.

If Terminator was a MT then the cycle breaks, i.e. there needs to be a beginning, a first time around when the original timeline didn't had any time travelers. How did that timeline looked like? John couldn't exist, which means that sending a Terminator back in time to kill Sarah was not possible, Reese couldn't have gone back without the Terminator technology, which they wouldn't have unless the resistance was winning, and if they are winning without John, the Terminator must have gone back to kill someone else and when Reese went back he accidentally found Sarah, impregnated her and coincidentally made a better commander for the resistance which accidentally and created a perfect loop so that next time he would be sent back and meet Sarah because she was the target (what are the odds of that). Then why is the movie not about this? Why is the movie about the Nth loop after the timeline was changed? The reason is that Terminator was thought as a ST movie, but when they wanted to write a sequel they for some reason decided to allow changes in the timeline which broke the first movie.

[–] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Ah! A fellow holder of the belief that time travel stories are better when they are internally consistent! I hate e.g. Looper for having time travel that makes no goddamn sense. It takes me out of the story when the characters are literally watching the timeline change before them as it magically radiates out from one point. And then our protagonists somehow remember the original timeline... Bah.

...So I must ask - have you seen Primer? If not, maybe you'd like it!

[–] meleecrits@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Not to mention that it's fucking stupid to have all your infiltration units have the exact same face and body. The first movie even showed other terminators with different faces, so why is every T-800 Arnold?

That said, T2 is one of my favorite movies.

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[–] Rylyshar@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I watched The Princess Bride and couldn’t understand why it gets so much love. I found it really gruesome and unfunny, and Robin Wright’s princess was bland and unlikable.

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 1 points 11 months ago

Out of all the bad opinions in this thread, this one legit made my BP rise. Well done at having a terrible opinion lol

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Inconceivable 💀

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Horror films are where art flourishes and it has a huge culture of being outside of Hollywood which is just a plus. Also the acting is usually way better

[–] XbSuper@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most horror movies have worse acting than a porno.

[–] psud@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

There is no accounting for taste. Who's to say what's a better actor?!

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

Amazing, every word is wrong

[–] Labotomized@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think you’re right and maybe that’s why I prefer horror movies so much over literally all else. And to your point about being outside of Hollywood, I really appreciate it when I don’t recognize any of the actors. It makes it much more immersive for me. Usually much better camera work and lighting too. And Less CGI - atleast the better ones. I hate it when the whole screen is just really good animation :(

[–] otacon239@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Ouiji was the worst offender of this. The first half of the movie, it’s got some of my favorite subtle directing in it, keeping you on your toes, then BAM. Halfway through they’re showing the creature in full view and it’s some generic black goo. Not scary at all. Would have been way better if the horror never showed its face.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Interstellar is a terrible movie that doesn't say or do anything special and I still don't understand why anyone thinks it's so amazing.

I did really like the robot guy though.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Crash? More like Trash.

Also, Avatar fucking blows.

[–] Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

Every animated movie looks the same now

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

The critic rating is better than the audience rating. I’ve never seen a film with a high critic rating that didn’t have something worthwhile about it. But I’ve seen a lot of audience hits that were garbage.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Wes Anderson movies are fucking terrible.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Batman Begins and Dark Knight Rises were boring. Batman & Robin was better than those two.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Titanic is not a good movie.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Titanic would have been a better movie if they had cast someone other than Leo DiCaprio.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

I don't like the guy that much either, for whatever that may mather.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

The Godfather, extremely overrated and very boring. Saw it many years ago, and maybe my taste in movies have changed a bit, and I consider rewatching other movies I did not like, but not that one.

[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love the first Dune book, and I love the goofy 80's Dune movie, which was pretty close to the book in terms of getting a lot of the internal dialog in place. But I hated the new Dune movie. I didn't like how sterile and empty they made the palace, or the weird anus mouth design of the sand worms. Or the silly use of balloons to help lift harvesters. I very much didn't like how they made Lady Jessica an emotional mess, instead of being in control of her outward emotions, as she was trained to do.

They also screwed up the personal defense shields REAL BAD. The idea that the shields react to kinetic energy, so a fast moving project from a firearm would get stopped, but a slow moving blade would pass through. The fight near the end had people being killed by fast sword strikes by hitting the shields, it was just so jarring and lazy. They also completely misrepresented who and what the Sardukar are. Based on how many people loved the movie, I have an unpopular opinion. Though I found that most people who absolutely loved the movie hadn't seen the original movie, or read the first book, so they didn't know anything to color their impression.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The 80s Dune movie has a stellar cast and amazing art direction.

[–] IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

As much as I love Denis Villeneuve, I still love David Lynch's Dune more. Yes, the acting is spotty, and there were more than a few questionable changes to the plot, but I can't get that art direction out of my mind. That being said, I haven't seen part two yet.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Mario movie was incredibly mediocre, despite its high production value. I'm talking MCU-levels of truckloads of money spent with shockingly little to show for it.

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[–] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Napoleon Dynamite is garbage.

[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

The Dark Knight has fucking terrible editing and a lot of bad, hammy acting. The opening bank heist is just bad, with really on-the-nose dialogue delivered pretty badly...even William Fichtner seems like he's trying a little too hard, and he's an otherwise good actor.

I know the editing has been covered in some YouTube essay that made the rounds a number of years ago so maybe that's not such an unpopular opinion, but it really sticks out to me like a sore thumb.

Before anyone gets totally mad at me, I still enjoy the overall story, a lot of the action, and I think both Ledger and Bale (dumb batman voice aside) are great. Also, Morgan Freeman, Michal Caine and whatshisname who plays Harvey Dent are also very good too.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Interstellar is a bad movie. The story takes too long, the supposedly smart characters are acting obviously dumb, and the whole "we solved it all along because we figured out timetravel" trope is the most lazy way to wrap up a story.

Oh and of course the small artifically built space colony near Jupiter does not care for fitting many humans, but instead is a shitty american suburb with lavish lawns. Because who needs to safe people from other cultures amirite?

[–] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 1 points 11 months ago

I actually liked Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets. Both main actors were objectively terrible, but I still liked the movie 🤷‍♂️

[–] Labotomized@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Films where I don’t recognize a single actor among the whole crew are almost always better than ones where I’ve seen such and such actor in other movies. Just more immersive. And even if they’re not the best actors I’d much prefer that over whatever the hell Chris Prat or Tom Cruise or Leo D are up to.

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[–] mayo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Dennis Villeneuve is currently untouchable in the same way that Christoper Nolan was a few years ago. For whatever reason I meshed with Nolan's work at the time but I have been completely disenchanted by Villeneuve since Blade Runner.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (11 children)

I like The Last Jedi.

That should be controversial enough.

[–] Tyrangle@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Remember when they snuck off on some escape ship to go get help for their crew in imminent danger and then decided to dick around on some horse racing casino planet? It's like they completely forgot why they were there. I thought TLJ had some neat ideas but I don't know how anyone can overlook that weird loss of urgency in the middle of the film. It's like your house is on fire and your family is trapped upstairs, so you run over to a neighbor's house to call the fire department, but you discover that they got some dog fighting thing going on in the backyard so you decide to go deal with that first, then you call the fire department but it turns out the dispatcher was in cahoots with the arsonist who started it in the first place, and then you return home with your tail between your legs and your mom didn't even know you had left. The whole second act could have been a dream sequence and it wouldn't have changed a thing.

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[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Really? A lot of people seem to hate it for some reason...

[–] SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah because it's shit

[–] Wugger@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

At the top of every reddit "What movie should never be remade?" thread is the LOTR trilogy. Well... I totally agree the movies are great, but not quite timeless. When I rewatched them a couple years ago for the first time in a long time I couldn't get over the feeling that it screamed "Filmed and directed in the late 90s and early 00s!" I don't have the film knowledge to point out exactly what it is but something about the way it is shot looks very dated to me and hasn't aged as well, in my opinion, as everyone on the internet says it is.

I really do love the music and the art style and sets and casting too. Maybe it doesn't need a reshoot, but a recut?

[–] DrFuggles@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

I think part of it is that movies are edited differently now. We've become used to much faster pacing, much denser storytelling and sweeping drone shots of everything, so older movies generally feel a bit lame now

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