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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 113 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've been using this quote for a while now.

The history of Russia can be broken down into five little words.

"And then...it got worse."

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They have spent the last century 1 step forward; two back. Which it's hard to say if it's an improvement on the century prior or not.

They really should just turn around and embrace being backwards, it would really make it all simpler.

[–] erin@lemmy.sidh.bzh 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

well not 3rd but 2nd since Shoigu has decided to enter the russian guiness book by becoming the best at russian national sport: window skydiving without parachute

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I read your comment and was like "oooh what did I miss?! Did Shoigu get defenestrated?" Imagine my disappointment when it turned out he hasn't taken flight yet

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When is the last time someone saw 'ol Sergei anyhow?

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Keep hope alive.

[–] erin@lemmy.sidh.bzh 6 points 2 months ago

arf I mixed my dream with reality, I was not talking about Shoigu but Prigozhin ><

[–] Rade0nfighter@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Would be even funnier if it said second best in Russia, no need to complicate it.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well,there's Wagner, who are probably loitering on a street corner, kicking dogs and watching Seagal clips on their phones.

[–] Cipher22@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wagner was moved under the Russian regular military after the failed coop. So they're technically one entity now. (Not that there was ever much of a difference, it's just less now. )

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nothing worse than a failed coop. Chickens everywhere.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

SHOIGUUUUU!!! WHERE ARE MY EGGS!!

[–] Cipher22@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

This is funny, so I'm leaving my mistake

[–] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are the Chechen counted as part of the Russian Military or separate?

[–] Cipher22@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

The command structure is what determines separate forces, do the Chechen forces answer to the same command structures? I know from US coalition operations that the foreign forces answer to their own NCO/Officer Corp. Typically, through to the region level and have their own rules and regulations separate from the other nation forces, often operating from their own bases and really only coordinating at the colonel level or above.

To my understanding, the Chechen forces are barely allowed their own officers at the unit level, much less anything higher. I'm far from an expert on that, though, and may be wrong. If true, I wouldn't separate them, if false, maybe, as much as the separation of NATO forces in Afghanistan.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Sure, but it works better the other way.