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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Accurate except for the “instead” part. Road maintenance comes from local taxes, whereas military aid comes from federal taxes.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well if you really want to get technical about it.... No programs or spending are really funded by taxes anyway, the government just says "OK" and the numbers in the bank accounts of the companies implementing said program go up. Taxes funding things is just a myth. Taxes just delete money. So technically, nothing is funded by taxes and taxes are just a money void.

Edit: People seem to be down voting because they think this is tinfoil hat BS or something. It's not. Look up modern monetary theory. Governments with fiat currency don't need to collect money to pay for things. They just invent and issue more currency. See this video: https://youtu.be/75udjh6hkOs?si=dVpp9V5f96kLDV4-&t=1628

[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That has real sovcit vibes.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not at all. Look up MMT. Modern monetary theory and economics are well beyond "spend taxes to fund programs". Governments that issue debts in their own made up currency don't need to "spend" money, they just give money to the programs they support.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You are aware of the fact that central banks are usually independant institutions and whenever the government meddles with them, that countries currency gets fucked by the market?

Also in todays interconnected financial and real economy there is only so much control any government canexert iver its currency, because the currencies values is significantly determined by the exchange from imported and exported goods.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While both points are true, that still doesn't change whether taxes fund these programs.

Sure there are other complexities like "how much is too much? Can we just keep doing it forever?" but those questions have more to do with the labor force of said country and their exports, and almost nothing to do with their tax rates.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

The central banks control the amount of money based on the tasks they were given for their operation. That does not relate directly to the way the government is spending or taking money.

It is simply not the governments taxes and spending that is making or deleting money. It is the system of how the private banks can borrow or deposit money at the central bank with a certain interest rate,that is making or deleting money.

And youll have noticed that it is not the central bank granting loans to the government but bonds being sold on the market for the government to take debt.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Sorry about all the broken veterans with TBIs. We could have invested in better healthcare infrastructure, TBI treatment research even better armor and helmets for our troopers dealing routinely with IEDs. But instead we got experimental tanks with active camo, a shitty plane which we're phasing out and aid to Israel to perpetuate their ancient religious genocide program.

It's just that US soldiers are poor and expendible and people with money tell us who and what is important.

[–] Daqu@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Just put the babies in the potholes.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Please, not fixing potholes have been around longer than the current Palestinian/Israeli and also a completely stupid reduction of the complexity of this whole fucked up situation.

[–] smooth_tea@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

There's nothing complex about it. Israel imprisons an entire people and every time the UN tries to do something about it the US vetoes it.

The "it's complex" excuse is used to have people look the other way by turning it into a hopeless situation.