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[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (36 children)

right... more like that first line is: Genocide bad so don't vote for democrats.
Many left voters agree genocide is bad, we can vote for Democrats while also protesting and reaching out to our reps to stop the genocide.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

And the reps will ignore you because what are you going to do, not vote for them? You already telegraphed that you will vote for them anyways.

In the party database, you show up as: Last Name, First Name, likely voter, donor yes/no. Literally, this is how much they think about you.

PS I thought genocide was an unconscionable, intolerable crime that required your specific action to ensure it "never again" happens. Now it's just "bad", like high housing costs? Do you see how your own soul is distorted by this naive partisanship?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If they ignore you and you keep voting for them, what's their motivation to take you seriously? The only leverage the average voter has is their vote. If they know that they can count on your vote no matter what they do, then they don't have to listen to you.

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[–] _thebrain_@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Except both political parties that have a chance of winning are pro genocide.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The point of red lines is to not cross them. If you consider supporting a genocide a red line, which is certainly what I was taught, that means the system has moved beyond the pale and you must now take a different approach to politics than the horse race lesser evil logic that you were taught by the ruling class.

Namely, start working on other ways to build political power. The other ways are actually stronger. The ruling class, logically, teaches you to only see politics through a lens that disempowers you. It gives you playdough when you need a knife.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

What's really funny, is that this is something both the ancient greeks knew (that voting is nothing more than a popularity contest / theatre piece, since the only people able to fund their campaigns come from the upper classes), and that Marxists in the 1800s rediscovered when they dealt their own theoretical death blows to liberalism.

Upper-class USonians love their reality TV show elections, but most people are smarter than them, and have realized that voting has never improved their lives, or taken war off the menu.

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[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Who are you voting for?

I'm voting for Kamala Harris.

EDIT:

Not a single Grad or Hexbear user has given me a real answer. I really don't know how you expect to persuade people of your beliefs when you're this scared to have a serious conversation.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

The PSL ticket

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[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm not sure why I've been subscribed to this community for this long.

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Tell me your life is focused on spreading discontent and hatred without telling me your life is focused on spreading discontent and hatred.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is there anything more hateful than genocide and supporting it?

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