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[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fuck this. These people are fleeing horrible situations. We should be welcoming everyone to this country.

[–] gnutard@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No, when you have sex traffickers and drug cartels coming over, I don't think that's very smart. What I think needs to happen is to lower the limit of how long it takes to become a citizen of this country, that's what really needs to change.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

we should ban drug cartels and sex trafficers then if policy is so good at keeping them out

[–] gnutard@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They already are banned. I wonder, why there is a fentanyl crisis in the US?

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is it because of migrant caravans? enlighten this non racist

[–] gnutard@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but then you probably say you want to ban all guns as well, just so that people can come over undocumented and bring over whatever they want. Again, doesn't sound smart. What about all the people who did it the legal way? I don't think having completely open borders is a great idea. It's why I advocated for lessen the amount of time it takes to become a citizen, so they can do it the legal way and don't have to get deported. You don't even want people to be documented? You're just going to let anyone in from one of the countries with the highest crime rates?

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As much as it must appeal to all sorts of criminals to see so many of their peers represented in the US government I believe most asylum seekers aren't just looking for new criminal job opportunities.

Also yes I'm what I would describe as a pragmatic anarchist so indeed we should eventually get rid of all national borders.

You're a very scared little person aren't you. Everyone is out to get what little you have. Why don't you take a look at what your own countrymen are taking from you? Why are you worried about migrants when your own homegrown capitalists are robbing you blind.

Your threat isn't Brown people my friend.

[–] gnutard@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody brought up race except you. And ah, I can see now, you're an anarchist? Enjoy making below $15/hour then chump. Cry about why nobody gives you opportunities, its because your mind is absolutely smooth as butter. I will gladly keep all my firearms, thank you very much for giving me more reasons to do so. I just love how you immediately pulled the race card, that's how you try to win all your conversations eh? Pathetic.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh I wonder what kind of people pass through the US Mexico border to enter the US.

You don't have to worry about my financial situation I'm doing extremely well compared to the American median, which should be much higher than it is, but aren't billionaires so cool? Which one is your favorite?

Maybe I'll sneak in through your northern border and spook you later. I might not look so recognizably foreign though so be careful of every single person you see we're coming for you: boo!

[–] jumjummy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Funny how none of the solutions to try and curb illegal immigration fall on the business owners who knowingly hire them. Enact jail time for those business owners, and see how quickly the demand dries up. No coincidence that most of these business owners are Republican. They want a permanent underclass of vulnerable workers they can exploit.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Funny how none of the solutions to try and curb illegal immigration fall on the business owners who knowingly hire them.

They do... kinda. This problem peaked under COVID, when you had fruit rotting in fields thanks to our sudden crack down on migrant travel. We saw a similar sudden drop in available farm labor back in 2017, when Trump was ramping up border enforcement against seasonal laborers.

No coincidence that most of these business owners are Republican.

That's more a correlation than causation. Blue collar business owners tend to skew Republican because Republicans cater to the anti-union and anti-poc proclivities of socially conservative white nationalist land barons. When Dems were the party of the apartheid-era South, they dominated this same voting block.

But the brutal treatment of migrant workers has had a socio-economic impact on Gulf Coast states. Florida's orange production has dropped from 240M pounds in 2004 to 16M in 2024. Supplies of meat and dairy produce have sagged as ranchers from Nevada to Alabama to Iowa are running out of cheap exploitable laborers. More and more businesses are turning to the carceral state to provide field hands, but even that doesn't work well in states where people aren't having kids to lock up and the existing prisoner base is aging past the point of functional field labor.

Even with the most sadistic and malicious attitude towards your fellow humans, this isn't a profitable economic policy. It is being driven largely be the outright terror wealthier white land owners have of the young Spanish speaking migrants that dominate their workforce.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The White House is finalizing plans for a U.S.-Mexico border clampdown that would shut off asylum requests and automatically deny entrance to migrants once the number of people encountered by American border officials exceeded a new daily threshold, with President Joe Biden expected to sign an executive order as early as Tuesday, according to four people familiar with the matter.

The president has been weighing additional executive action since the collapse of a bipartisan border bill earlier this year.

The Biden administration has grown ever more conservative on border issues as the president faces ceaseless criticism from Republicans and there are large numbers of migrants crossing into the U.S. from Mexico who are not easily returned, especially as global displacement grows from war, climate change and more.

sounds like a right leaning conservative to me

what about additional executive action on anything else like women's rights, minimum wage, or anything that could count toward the human good

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] NatoBoram@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your "minimum wage" link states multiple times that it is only for federal employees, not for the general population. There are still states where you can get less than 10$/h.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Well yeah he's a Federal Executive office holder. Is anyone confused about that? Anyone not understand the difference between state and federal government?