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Feeling Good Doesn't Require the Democrats (all-cats-are-beautiful.ghost.io)

submitted 1 month ago by poVoq@slrpnk.net to c/pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What the fuck

Why is this SO long and consists only of "fuck the Democrats / the Democrats betrayed us / be disheartened / fuck the Democrats / the Democrats betrayed us / be disheartened"

Like I try to imagine Martin Luther King or Eugene Debs giving this as a speech, and I can't imagine it. "There's no winning. Let's all remember the bad times and cling to them like they are our only harbor in the storm. Let me catalogue the times people failed us, volume 1" (although with more heat applied to it than specific examples).

If you want a more coherent and productive version of this, that talks about how to actually push the Democrats to the left instead of just instigating a personal depression-crisis about the state of American politics (which although sorta understandable is not a productive way to get better outcomes), this interview with Ralph Nader might be a good place to start.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The 'Genocide Joe' early on should tell you everything else you need to know. This is written by a "disaffected leftist" who still thinks - or wants you to think - you show it to the man by staying home.

I'm sick of the "Democrats always find a way to lose" mantra because 1) it's Republican messaging, 2) it always ignores our wins, and 3) it's rarely even an accurate complaint, such as Biden not supporting the railworkers unions.

You don't get perfection by letting your enemies take power out of spite, and if you declare everyone your enemy, you choose to be on the outside.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah. I’m giving it a hefty scoop of benefit of the doubt, and dealing with it at face value in terms of “how do we get better behavior from the Democrats as pertains to issues like Gaza,” because there is a valid complaint about how shit the Democrats can be in congress and as a general rule. But I also won’t disagree with you on the bigger picture here.

If you’re an activist trying to get better results out of the American political system, that sounds like a fuckin fantastic idea. Trying to get there by denying credit to the Democrat’s tiny progressive wing whenever they do something in the right direction doesn’t sound like a real good element of that strategy.

I am sure, also, that I will also be able to find some inaccurate criticism here of the Democrats for something they actually didn’t do, but I stopped reading and started skimming long before reaching that point.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

You’re a better man than I, mozzga din.

I’m not giving it any benefit - this is straight up garbage. “Screw the Democrats for being the singular party able to give us everything we want”. WTF indeed.