Had been using Brave for 4 years. Switched from it to Firefox after the Google DRM news came out. Firefox is awesome!
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Their business model is replacing ads with ads they get paid for. Obviously they aren't going to like Google making that harder.
You may be right but I have been using Brave on iOS simply because you can’t just install Firefox and uBlock, and since I reconfigured the new tab page I haven’t seen any ads anywhere at all.
From now on, any browser that refuses to implement Google‘s evil shit should be worth a look.
Why not stick with Safari with the Adblock extension and all the others that are available?
Because this way, instead of two apps it’s just one and with better control over content blocking.
But every browser on iOS is just a wrapper around safari... So you're still just using safari plus another app
No, every browser on iOS must use the same rendering engine (WebKit). Safari uses it. The others have to use it, too. Even if your statement was true, a good wrapper that makes the functions of two apps that are frequently used in conjunction accessible through one good interface would still be an advantage.
The DRM will be so interwoven into the core engine that they won't be able to remove it. chromium is a sinking ship
Time to switch to Firefox as the base.
Amen. I'm just waiting for them to screw everything up and I'll follow along.
t. Currently using Brave
No need to wait, Firefox is already a strong competitor (in terms of features, not market share). Adblock on Firefox mobile makes mobile sites so much easier to use.
I don't know how people navigate the internet without adblock on mobile. Each website is a nightmare with the majority of the screen being ads.
Just use Firefox. I already like it better than brave personally.
It really isn't though. I also started using Firefox recently and I miss tab groups on mobile as well as on my PC. Yes, there is the simple tab groups add-on, but it just doesn't compare.
Brave is also easier to set up ad-blocking, because it comes with ad-block enabled and script-blocking two clicks away.
Don't get me wrong, I will continue to use FF, but Brave has some features, FF does not have (yet).
It might be interwoven, but at the end there are three interfaces:
- the headers or tags that trigger it to be enabled for a website
- the API towards the attester
- the headers that are added to subsequent call to include the verdict of the attester
It should be enough to disable/sabotage nr. 1. If not, you can sabotage nr. 2 so it simply doesn't attest shit. And finally you can suppress adding the verdict to the responses.
If the actual "fingerprinting" or whatever else is in there is still intact doesn't matter if you just don't trigger it.
Of course webservers would simply deny serving brave then. But it's still a good move. The more browsers get "denied", the easier it will be to make a case against websites for some kind of discrimination.
Don't care, still won't use out of principle.
What principle are you referring to? (Serious question)
There are 3 possibilities:
- brave has crypto stuff
- brave is based on chromium
- brave is selling data breaking the licenses
Also, I've seen accusations of blatant homophobia been thrown around against the founder, haven't looked into that though so no idea how accurate that is
What people are referring to in that regard is how, in 2011, Brendan Eich (who later founded Brave Software) stepped down as CEO of Mozilla, 11 days after his appointment to said position, after it came out he had donated $1000 dollars to the campaign for California Proposition 8 in 2008, a proposed state constitutional amendment seeking to ban same-sex marriage. Prop 8 wound up passing, although it was overturned a few years after the fact in court.
Here's an article from when Eich stepped down about the whole ordeal.
Thanks for adding context to this!