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Low hanging fruit, but whatever. It is what it is.

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[–] bobslaede@feddit.dk 55 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I have got so many used ThinkPads. Everyone in my house has one.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] bobslaede@feddit.dk 31 points 3 months ago

You get a ThinkPad! And you get a ThinkPad! Everyone gets a ThinkPad! :oprah_wave:

[–] gregor@gregtech.eu 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] nichtburningturtle 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can I have one IBM ThinkPad 701 it's old and it's not like you're using it anyways.

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[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Old ThinkPads, the poor man’s Framework.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I tried to buy a system 76 pangolin but they don't ship to Australia (yet?)

Sad

[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But in Australia you CAN get an old Thinkpad, so…

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[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

System76 and Framework are mostly North America and Western Europe. Pine64 might sell in Australia.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Framework have been shipping to Australia for ages. I ordered in December 2022 and it drop shipped from Taiwan to rural Australia in about a week. It was faster than ordering parts from pccasegear though that isn't saying much.

I have been a fan of System76 since I saw some stickers at a conference nearly two decades ago. I think they have good intentions but unfortunately a badge engineering company for most of their existence. The quality hasn't always been there from their ODMs and foreign RMA bothers me. You can buy a clevo or tong fang from local resellers and cover it in linux stickers.

The used market in Australia is bad for most things unfortunately.

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[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I got unbuntu on my xiaomi notebook with a nice oled screen. It worked almost immediately. Easier install then windows. I chose Ubuntu as my first linux because of lots of support.

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[–] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Refurbished ThinkPads are available in countries where Framework, System76, and Pine64 do not ship.

Besides, ThinkPads are really well-built machines that perform well for everyday tasks at a fraction of their (or the aforementioned competition's) original price.

I love my two machines, which are from before Lenovo took over completely. Their keyboards, port selection, and repairability are almost unparalleled compared to today's competition.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I have a Framework and it beats the shit out of every Lenovo I have ever used.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thinkpad not always was lenovo

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[–] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago (6 children)

as cool as they are the last time a good thinkpad came out was over a decade ago, so u are either just buying a normal laptop same quality as all the others or something so old its basically useless. They arent even cheap anymore cuz everyone wants them, its time to face reality refurbished thinkpads are no longer what they were they are no longer a good deal nor particularly good quality, u would probably be better off buying some random gaming laptop most of them are pretty well put together, easy to take apart and upgradable tho thick and heavy.

[–] monsterpiece42@reddthat.com 10 points 3 months ago

This simply isn't true. They are still cheap even for decent stuff. I got a T15 Gen 2 when it was 2.5yrs old for about $400 on eBay. You're not going to get an even remotely decent laptop in most cases for that kind of money. And to be clear, I love old Thinkpads. I have them going back to the IBM days.

Modern Thinkpads: -easy to work on -plenty fast for most things -still made of the carbon composite and magnesium chassis we like -hinges are beefy -upgradeable ram -available with GPU -lighter and easier to daily than any of the old chonks -replaceable keyboard, track pad and track point, and fingerprint -dual thunderbolt connection (and docks are stupid cheap.. I find them for $30 sometimes)

Downsides exist but they're not the end of the world: -one drive slot (drives are huge now, who cares) -8gb of RAM is soldered but the rest is not (max 40gb) -internal battery but laptop is faster and has better battery life than my maxed out T580

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 3 months ago

refurbished thinkpads are no longer what they were they are no longer a good deal nor particularly good quality

Off-lease enterprise laptops are generally the best deals available for a good laptop for not too much cash. When you can get something 3-5 years old for 1/3 the price of a brand new laptop and know it still has quite a bit of life left, its hard to beat.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

yea, thinkpads aren't the only laptops that can be bought used

[–] Persen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Some gaming laptops are good, but others are just as crappy as normal laptops. New smaller thinkpads are still good enough, if you need a small laptop.

[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a decent gaming laptop It's a pain in the ass for collage tho I didn't buy it for collage but I also can't really afford to buy something else

It's too big and the battery life sucks

Basically the least portable laptop

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[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

buy any AMD laptop, replace the wifi card, install your favorite distro and it will run like magic.

You get a new, capable, and power-efficient device, while not bothering with damn old ThinkPads or giving insane amount of money to s76.

[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

until it gets completely fucked due to a form-over-function cooling system and hits 101C (NBLK-WAX9X)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 months ago

...because HUAWEI doesn't ship their laptops with thermal paste, apparently.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

why replace the wifi? i find the amd (mediatek?) cards work well enough.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

It works well enough if you don't mind the occasional disconnect and slow connection to wifi, which is true for a lot of people like me. It's still pretty annoying to deal with sometimes, just not enough to go replace the WiFi card or anything.

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[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Any old laptop without Nvidia will suffice tho, upgrade WiFi card, ram, swap hhd for ssd, install your favourite distro and it'll run like magic, if laptop have dying battery then also buy new one, or resolder elements and reset bms.

[–] somenonewho 11 points 3 months ago

Been ThinkPad User for over 10 years. Edge E135 X220 X260

This year was the first Time in about 16years I bought a non used machine and it was a framework. As much as I adore the good ol ThinkPad the recent developments regarding repairability/statement from Lenovo are turning me off more and more. And my framework makes me happy every time I use it ...

So I don't know.

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

My work laptop is a Dell Precision. It was a "data science" model that came with Ubuntu. Wiped Dell's modified Ubuntu and put vanilla Ubuntu on it and now running Nixos. Works great. There was a weird period when using triple monitors with their dock had an intermittent issue on boot where resolutions and monitors were not being detected. Cause was Nvidia drivers. It eventually got resolved and it was easy enough to rollback the drivers to one that worked.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Cause was Nvidia drivers.

This should be on a t-shirt

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[–] Vuraniute@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 months ago

until you get one with an i5-5300U soldered to the board T~T

[–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

are pinebooks even meant for regular use?

[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Opensource chromebooks. Yep.

[–] cqst@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago

Dell E6400 can be flashed with libreboot without tools and is easily obtainable from Ebay.

https://libreboot.org/

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

I like my system 76!

[–] NOPper@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Maybe I'm missing something, but I finally retired my old laptop for a ThinkPad X13 a few weeks ago and it's been perfect for my use case. Build quality is solid, battery life is alright, it's small and light, and everything worked out of the box with the preinstalled Ubuntu. After testing it all I slapped EndeavourOS in there and have had zero issues. Specs are solid and I got it for like $1200. Even the AMD integrated graphics are punching way above what I expected.

Just curious about what folks are complaining about with the newer Lenovo models.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Fwiw this meme isn't piling on any Lenovo Thinkpad hate you've seen if I understand it correctly (which I may not)

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[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

None of these have an OLED or DCI-P3 coverage so… pass

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

Got a T450 for less than a hundred bucks and the build quality's something that no longer exists in this day and age. Almost every piece of hardware in that thing's easily accessible and replaceable. It's gonna be a sad day when it finally dies out and nothing else in the market could compare.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So is shooting a new event in the Olympics? Why haven't we gotten these kind of badass pictures before this year?

[–] Omniraptor@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
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