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Vibe check: What are your impressions and experiences of Lemmy, Kbin, Mbin, and Beehaw? (kbin.run)
submitted 4 months ago by NaClKnight@kbin.run to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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Exactly what the title says.

What has your experience been on any of those platforms? Which captures more of your time? Why?

I'm relatively new here but I've read a little on the reddit-like platforms. I (mostly) understand what's a fork of what or what some of the technical differences are, but I'm curious about the vibes and communities.

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[–] CharlesReed@kbin.run 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

kbin (at least kbin.social) has a nice little community, but we're holding on by a thread over there since we've been overrun with spammers and nothing is really being done to combat it. A good chunk of people have jumped ship because of it, but we're still trying to fight where we can.

I made an mbin alt, but I haven't really hung out enough here to get a proper feel of it. Honestly it feels like looking through a window to the rest of the fediverse. If there's any chill mbin (edit) ~~instances~~ magazines, I'd love to know!

Beehaw seems to have the most positive vibes, and I really like that. It seems small, but they're pretty active. I mainly enjoy their gaming community.

I think I interact the most with Lemmy, but that's probably because that's where most active instances are. You'll get a lot more different takes on there than anywhere else, some great, some not so great, but that comes with any site where you bring a bunch of people together.

Of course, these are from my experience and opinion. I'm interested to see others' takes.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It's because beehaw mandates its positivity. I once called out one of their posts as being fascist and they banned me for being rude about it.

I feel like any place that forces people to be positive in a world where there's so much injustice is always going to passively side with evil.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s an interesting point, but I wonder - what happened to the post you called out?

Besides, they didn’t force people to be positive. That would be unrealistic. When I was a Beehaw regular, you could find lots of posts about negative, unjust things. That wasn’t a problem. They simply didn’t tolerate people who failed to express themselves in a respectful way.

There’s a difference. For example “are you feeling okay?” vs. “you look like shit.”

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

How do you respectfully say "this is nazi propaganda?" You can't. That's the point. That's why they do it.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

“To me, this reads like Nazi propaganda. What am I missing?”

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

All i'm trying to say is them defederating from lemmygrad tells you everything about that instance that you need to know. Hexbear I get, but grad holds themselves up to a way higher standard of comment quality and there was zero reason to defederate outside political. They literally only blocked the instance because they were communists who aren't afraid to calmly debunk fascist propaganda with sources, and that's an experience corroborated by literally anyone who has had the displeasure of interacting with their polite-fascist administration.

EDIT: the example you provided is not only completely useless as it guts the original intent of the message but is STILL too offensive for them, as bringing up fascism is already "killing the mood" more than enough for them to remove. Not only that they would accuse you of calling the OP a Nazi which is another way they can shut you down. Believe me I've dealt with liberal fascists my whole life i've heard it all.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think they wanted to see people giving others the benefit of the doubt, instead of making snap judgments. It’s very easy to get into heated arguments online that could be avoided with simple clarification and communication.

If someone is simply bad at expressing themselves, the extra “room” can make all the difference in the world. If they really are a jerk, though, all you’re doing is giving them enough rope to hang themselves. Win/win!

Then again, you’re talking to someone who hasn’t visited Beehaw in almost a year. I don’t know how their moderation has changed.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago

You can make all the vague guesses you want, I've lived the experience and can say flat out the instance uses respectability politics to shut out criticism. Like it's clear as day to anyone on the receiving end of that what they're about.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Beehaw isn’t exactly a separate platform yet— it’s still Lemmy, but they’re starting to sequester themselves and will soon spin off. Until then, they’re just a somewhat isolated Lemmy instance that’s focused on being a generally-positive safe-space. I think it’s nice, but there’s a lot of more frank and sometimes not-so-nice discussions that obviously can’t happen there.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Beehaw‘s active users nosedived after they defederated and never really recovered. There’s less than 500 total users now. But they’re all very active.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hmm wonder why people would quit a circlejerk platform that bans people who call out when someone posts literal fascist propaganda.