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I hate that everything now is a subscription service instead of buying it and do whatever you want.

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[–] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other than the recent nonsense, this is why I cancelled Netflix and went back to pirating. Content leaves unexpectedly? Not on my Nas.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

I've taken to de-DRMing any e-books I bought from Amazon for that reason.

Also, the "You can only view this book on 3 devices" -- yeah .... fuck off.

Calibre + DeDRM plugin + KFX plugin. Perfectly legal too, as long as you aren't distributing them.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's so cool that we live in a world where you can 3d print a gun more reliably than you can 2d print an insurance card

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 10 months ago

3D print the insurance card!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shit that should be fucking illegal, this.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they were not aware of it before buying then it is illegal.

[–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t actually need to be aware of it. Because you said you were aware of it, when you clicked Accept on the EULA, and on page 62 of the EULA it said they have the right to disable your printer remotely at any time and for any reason.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In decent nations, an EULA is considered an attempt by the seller to, after the purchase, change the terms of the implicit contract which was the sale, so it's has no legal standing whatsoever.

Absolutelly, the seller can set contract terms before the sale is done (and even then there are lots of limitations to avoid things like bait & switch, so it usualy has to be pretty clear and upfront and there are certain rights that a retail buyer simply cannot loose, even contractually), but never after the sale has been done.

EULAs only have legal standing in a few places, including a few States in the US.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just read an article the other day that said LG is about to start charging subscription fees for washing machines 🙄

I will go old school and start washing my clothes against a rock in the river before I'll pay a fucking subscription to use my own washing machine

[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That is crazy.

Like a damn laundromat. So is LG gonna supply water and power too? Wtf are the charging for? The right to buy their product? Lmao. Fuck off.

Go analog. Real analog. Sticks and stones baby.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article said the subscription was for "software updates" which really seems like something they should provide for free anyway so you're really just paying for the privilege to use their precious machine that you already paid for lol

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Software updates for what? New ways to wash your clothes? I only use like two or three settings in mine

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Knowing LG it's probably updates to make it play Jingle Bells at Christmas time or something lol

[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like paywalling security updates.

[–] cashsky@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those pesky hackers turning off my washing machine when I'm trying to do laundry!

[–] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Well, if your washing machine was connected to the internet you would also need security updates. Of course the only reason you'd connect your washing machine to the internet would be in order to get said security updates in the first place.

Great job creating a need by developing the fix for it in the first place.

[–] Clocksstriking13@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's for "smart" washing machines that you can control from your phone etc. So that's likely what the "updates" would be related too...why you'd need to control your washing machine from afar is beyond me but some people love smart gadgets and will by anything that connects to their phone.

[–] mayo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are cases for it, eg programming a wash to occur when energy demand is low.

In my opinion we should be pursuing technologies to do this that don't require an internet connection. Even being able to program a schedule into the machine and it can detect if something is in there or not. That would be enough since energy usage follows a relatively consistent plot. These companies don't give a shit about anything other than coming up with ways to make more money.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The cost of the laundry subscription is likely to vastly out cost the energy savings it may provide.

[–] jungekatz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Capitalism leads to innovation they say! This is an innovation in a way some may say !

[–] lesnout27@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yesterday i got the standard setup steps from windows after booting. I use to skip them most of the time, because i don t want to use edge and so on and sometimes they reapear. Yesterday i thought, i'll do them now, then never again this will bother me. When i got to the point of logging into my microsoft account i could not remember the password and had no possibility on the gui to get back and skip all, leaving me seemingly unable to use my own frickin computer. As i got more and more angry i clicked on "forgot password" which sends me an email with a code. I see the email appear on my phone and without even a chance of entering the code it sent me back to the enter password prompt. Even more angry and cursing to myself i pressed the forgort password text again leaving me with the same result. As i was close to exploding, my computer somehow decided to show "You are finished!" like he knew i had enough.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fucking hate this shit with passion and purposely setup my PC without internet connected every damn time I format.

I once connected to WiFi during the setup and got stuck in the same place and I wanted to burn my house down.

[–] lesnout27@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

And when this all wasn't enough, your silence while setting up your pc gets interupted by this and you nearly get a heart attack because you where on full volume.

[https://youtu.be/Rp2rhM8YUZY](HI, I'M CORTANA!!!!)

lmao

[–] Apeeksiht@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

buy laser printers. ink is pretty cheap and as we refill cartridge. i have a hp and and never suffer these subscription shit.

[–] andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 2 points 1 year ago

Buy Brother laser printers, specifically.

[–] regex1883@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

++ for brother. Still running my mfc j470 ink jet purchased in 2013. I purchased it because of their support of Linux and Android. I've NEVER used official ink cartridges besides what came with it. it's printed 6900 pages

[–] Quexotic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Business class laser printers are where it's at. I don't get why people still buy inkjets.

[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the future you now have to pay a sub or learn how to jail break your printer to get full use of it owner ship is almost dead folks time to break up big printer so you can refill your ink cartridges and print without a subscription

[–] efrique@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been saying for about 15 years now -- you'd have to be a masochist to buy HP printers. Why do people keep enabling these shits? You just encourage them to be even worse. Don't stand for even a little of their bullshit and they will change or die. You make a noose for your own neck.

[–] YashaB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are still buying HP printers because there are no alternatives. In my experience Epson is the worst. The are all the same, and we have no alternative other than letting them fuck with us. And they know it.

[–] exi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Brother has been amazing. Good products, manufacturer support for all operating systems, no subscription bullshit.

[–] archonet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ready boys? Say it with me, now.

BROTHER👏LASER👏PRINTER👏

[–] cnml@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

But never EVER buy a brother inkjet, its the same as all the other brands. You cannot insert bootleg ink anymore. My printer didnt accept any ink apart from the oem.

[–] EmperorHenry@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every time I think printers can't get any worse, they get worse.

What's next? are they going to have to scan your anus to confirm that it's actually you printing things? I shouldn't give them ideas.

By the way, I'm sure there's a way to get into the firmware of the printer to disconnect it from that centralized service.

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Actually, someone already came up with the idea of anal fingerprinting, albeit in another context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ

[–] MaxPower@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well I guess I will keep my 13 years old b/w laser printer then. Still works like a charm. There is no dried ink, no DRM, nothing. And it just works even it has not turned on for a year.

[–] insertfloppydiskhere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay so I see all this talk about ducky printers but if I want one that's not trying to guck me over which would that be?

[–] uint32@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Brother ist the way to go. Also OK for Linux in my experience

[–] johnnyjayjay@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

From my experience, printer support on Linux is often better than on Windows because all the drivers are included in the kernel and you don't have to go driver hunting on obscure websites.

[–] snobben@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Brother printers are fantastic. They cost a but more upfront but actually work

[–] johnnyjayjay@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Needed something to print the occasional document for bureaucracy stuff, and I also got a Brother printer a while ago. Used, laser (very important for good value imo), 100 bucks. An older model, black-and-white but with wifi support. Didn't need to register my license, create a cloud account or whatever other shit companies come up with these days, I could just turn it on and it worked.

[–] ciagovv@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Buy a brother printer instead. They may be a bit more expensive, but their easy mantainance and the amount of bootleg ink you can find online makes it worth the extra price.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Last time this came up, people were quick to bring up brother, and others (and that was new) to mention that brother started to do the same crap (limiting 3rd party toners). So I really don't know what to think of them anymore.

I could be in the market for a b&w laser printer/scanner soon so I'll keep an eye on replies here.

[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do Epson printers have DRM on the ink?

[–] maiskanzler@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Kind of, yes. 603XL has many compatible options, but the 604 of current printers was not available for cheap when I looked a few months ago.

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have absolutely no idea why anyone buys inkjet printers or cartridge razors. There are perfectly good alternatives that don't try and force you into a subscription model.

[–] l0v9ZU5Z@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I buy third party ink cartridges for my HP. No issue.