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Crowdstrike (lemmy.zip)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by dch82@lemmy.zip to c/memes@lemmy.world

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Microsoft also cut their QA department almost a decade ago.

[+] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de -9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's both Microsoft's AND Crowd Strike's fault.

[–] Jallu@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait until you learn about CrowdStrike breaking Linux systems as well.

Just kidding, no need to wait, here's one article about it: https://www.neowin.net/news/crowdstrike-broke-debian-and-rocky-linux-months-ago-but-no-one-noticed/

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Different events. Crowdstrike is really good at what they do (breaking systems).

[–] Jallu@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not to be smart, but just in conclusion: it'd have been pretty special, if they had broken down Linux and Windows with the same patch.

[–] Daveyborn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Would they receive the literal same patch? I thought it'd be different teams or something

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's Crowdstrikes fault 100%. Just because it caused Windows to crash because Microsoft let Crowdstrike have system driver level access isn't really Microsoft's problem. You wouldn't blame Microsoft if your video driver causes a crash when your video game loads would you? In a big picture kind of way maybe its Microsoft's problem because they enabled the situation to happen but that's not really in scope of what has actually happened.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

But Microsoft designed the system such that they needed a level of access that allowed them to crash it. Microsoft could make changes that allowed the software to do what it needed with protections against letting that software crash the system. Basically a wrapper. Or, it could track updates to software that has such special access, and roll back updates after crashing more than once or something. It chooses not to. So it shares the blame because of that decision.

[–] ColonelThirtyTwo@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Anything with enough access to block malicious programs has enough access to block any other program by mistake.

Security modules like this usually get very invasive with the OS, to be able to monitor everything and so that malicious programs don't have the ability to shut it off.

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

Microsoft actually tried to make these changes to prevent the need for kernal drivers. However security companies called foul and the EU told ms to not continue. There was worry that defender would end up with better access than 3rd party products.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

They could block that level of access but security software should be able to smack down attacks. And if those attacks are happening to those levels of computing, we become 100% reliant on the os vendor. This isn't a Microsoft problem, it's a problem for all each OS

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Crowdstrike isn't necessary for Windows to work. It is an addon that asks system level authority.

Windows not having the ability to give apps system level authority would be an even worse situation.