This is the propaganda I can get behind.
And with trolleybuses powered on a renewable grid, it's zero gallons!
this post was submitted on 08 Sep 2023
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While I agree with the comparison in the post, the trolleybus powered by renewable energy shouldn't be compared to gas cars.
It should be compared to electric cars powered by renewable energy.
Nope, a car electric or not creates multiple issues like urbanism, pollution (i.e: noise, visual, microplastics), hotspots, hostiles environment like parking lots, increase deaths rates, consequences on flooding, etc.
A lot of them can be solved with public transportation.
VPN uses 0 gallons.
Acktually, to use a VPN, you would need to turn on your PC or phone, which uses a small but existent amount of petrol -🤓
Solar power. Checkmate, atheists.
and EV car. also fuck petrol. and gallons while I'm here.
EVs solve about 2 of the 20 problems cars create.
While that's true, they "solve"* the two issues that are most pressing with ICE cars, air polution and fossil fuel use. I'd rather have EVs over ICEs, and I'd rather have walkable cities and robust public transit than either of the car options.
* are better, not perfect
With climate change, we have a multiplication of flooding and heat wave. Cars increase the effect of both of them. EVs or ICEs, it doesn't matter.
EVs are not and will never ever be the answer. It's a myth like many created by the car industry.
Hydroelectricity, nuclear, wind and solar BABEEYYYYYY!!!!!
Hydro destroys environments, uses enormous amounts of concrete and the related disasters have killed orders of magnitude more people than nuclear.
The correct answer actually should -and could- be 0 gallons if they simply cycle to work. Granted, that requires them to have the right infrastructure available, but if (once) that existed, the vast majority of the work force could cycle to work happily. Most people don't live 20 miles or more from where they work
Sure, I'd love to cycle 56km to and from work each day. Especially right after a night shift.
We should just invent portals already.
Maybe... Move closer to where you work?
And never mind the rampant spread of bedbugs and disease, being exposed to violence and sexual assault, risking being arrested simply for angering the bus driver, being made late to work or even missing it entirely because of bus breakdowns, route changes or cancellations, or any number of problems that are more easily rectified with an electric car or a bike
Yeah man because these are all inherent issues and not at all to do with the implementation
Yes, they are inherent issues. You can't control who goes on that bus and therefore can't guarantee the safety of passengers. You can't control whether buses break down or if the routes will change or not, so you can't guarantee riders will get to work on time, if at all. And in many cities, bus service is so poor that jobs will not hire people who ride the bus for those reasons.
You also can't stop people from spreading bedbugs and disease, and we all saw how well you reacted to that during covid.
Accept that you're just wrong on this. No matter how much you want buses to be a viable solution, they just aren't.
Ok, I'm curious if you think all mass transport is just a no-go then. What can be done?
Electric cars, of course
But everybody loves cars! Just look at how many cars people buy all the time!
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Nice. I have to travel like 17 miles to the nearest bus station. This fixes everything! /s
Better off with my own vehicle when it's only like 8 miles to work. I'd be literally wasting 9 miles to the bus station and 9 miles back in my own vehicle to even get back and forth to the bus station.
Edit: Seriously, have any of you tried traveling 17 miles to the west, only to catch a bus going 25 miles to the east, passing your own town to get to work? Then going 25 miles back, only to have to drive your own vehicle back home, because the bus don't stop there?
Better off just taking my own vehicle to work.