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After i got my Fairphone back from the repaircenter (they thought there was something wrong with it), they told me it was an intended design. However, i see other people mention they don't have it.

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[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Having worked in tech, though not as familiar with phones, I want to ask a question no one else has, which may be silly of me:

It's not a background, is it?

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Alright... you'd be surprised how often a power button isn't pressed, or tower/monitor is not plugged in. Sometimes the fix is the simplest possible solution.

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

True! And to be honest, i kinda checked it again after your comment... (With no luck)

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe it's to improve notification bar visibility?

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That is what Fairphone said. But then, why do i have it and others don't? And why does this happen when i'm using a fully black wallpaper? It should be visible enough already...

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

@PixelOrange@lemmy.world got it mostly right from my research, though their backgrounds will still have that bar. If you use a black, or near black, background, especially one not at your native resolution, that gradient will be most noticeable. Using other backgrounds that do not have a black strip along the top you might still be able to see it if you squint.

For those of you curious: Change your background to a solid black from the background menu in settings, or grab something similar elsewhere. Then crank your brightness up. Chances are it'll be there for you too if you're not running a third party launcher.

I haven't found a way to turn it off in native yet.

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Yep. I've seen it happen in brighter backgrounds too: but instead the fade will be a little darker (it does not happen on a white only wallpaper tho...) I was afraid it was an actual "feature", and this all kinda comfirms it. For now, a launcher will be the only "fix".

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does the screenshot show the hue?

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] Bitswap@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't see the hue in the screenshot

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Really? I double checked on my other phone, there it was visible as well...

[–] bitfucker@programming.dev 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

~~It means it isn't there. I don't see the hue either. Which leaves, screen issue.~~

Edit: It seems like a contrast issue? I took the screenshot and modified it contrast value -3× Modified contrast

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Hmm... I understand why you say that. But the thing is, my Fairphone has been send to the repaircenter for this exact reason. I got the same one back because there was no fault present in the screen or phone.

The funny thing is, the same thing happened for other people:

https://forums.androidcentral.com/threads/white-fade-at-the-top-of-home-screen.983310/page-2

Notice the guy saying: "oh, it actually shows up on a screenshot"? And i don't see it there too. Edit: actually i do, but indeed much less then when taking a actual photo.

This is just weird man...

[–] bitfucker@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

Yep. Already edited my comment too

[–] Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it is visible, but much more subtle than on your original picture in the post.

Easier to see against the black background:

[–] bitfucker@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

I was curious and then trying to edit the contrast, sure enough. This is 3×Modified contrast image

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it looks way worse on my original photo, because brightness was turned on to the max. On Fairphone it is a little worse then on my Nothing phone, but not that much.

[–] Bitswap@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I guess I just have an ancient phone that can't display it. I see it on the photos that people posted with the contrast turned up...but can't see it at all on the original.

Trusty s10e finally showing its age...

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I see it. At least we know it's a software issue at least.

Let's try to narrow down the issue. Did you try a different launcher?

Edit: Nevermind. Reading your other comments, it looks like it is the launcher.

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, that's nevertheless somewhat odd. Fairphone and Nothing have different stock launchers. I think they just modified the standard launcher and thus used a "feature" that was included in the first place? All things point to an actual intended design choice which can't be changed.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

I think the reason why some people see it and others don't is because screens have variances and are not calibrated properly. This happens even in the same batch of a phone release.

I saw the gradient but I barely saw it on my Pixel 5a. I could've easily missed.

[–] PixeIOrange@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Seems to be an Android "Feature"

Look at this pictures, should be gone:

Edit: save them to your gallery if they dont fill the screen.

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Hmm, i still notice some fade effect.. Edit: same on both devices.

[–] PixeIOrange@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is that your lock screen? Try to use your gallery. If its gone there, its androids "design" element.

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

No, i used them as backgrounds on my homescreen. In gallery the fade is not present on your images.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean the lighter parts from the top side?

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, the white fade on the notification panel.

[–] 0oWow@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Try a different launcher like Nova Launcher or Smart Launcher.

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Different launcher does indeed fix the issue, but that's such a shame because i really like the stock ones already.

[–] 0oWow@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So it might be that Fairphone is not aware how to make the notification bar transparent. It's a setting in android development they can enable. (Disclaimer: I'm not a developer.)

With that in mind, they seem to be saying it was intentional to hide their lack of knowledge. It's simply unreasonable that any developer would want such a hideous defect permanently at the top of the home screen.

On a positive note, I believe android 15 is supposed to correct this when the developer does not.

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I agree. Sadly the Fairphone 5 is still running Android 13... A14 is "planned" to released this summer

Fairphone is dropping some balls when it comes to software. So much that in its current state, i can't recommend the Fairphone 5 at all. Plenty of issues. They need to hire better developers/software designers and probably more of them too.

I've had contact since november, and only a few weeks ago (after i had to sent it to the repaircenter in France, i live in the Netherlands) they could tell me it was "an intentional design choice"; so the notificationbar would be more visible. I sent it to them because of the hue, because they first said; "it looks indeed suspicious". So... Yeah...

[–] Zelaf@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm wondering if it would be a jab at possibly trying to help burn-in issues? Having a bit of light around the pixels of static icons and text maybe would help minimize the noticeability?

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

That was actually one thing i also thought! But then i thought, why only do that on the homescreen? Because even the lockscreen misses that "feature".

[–] Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nope. My Nothing Phone 2a came in yesterday, and i've tested my Fairphone for it already.

[–] Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's just a temporary image retention? Was there something (bright or white) previously at that section of the screen? Like some app that you use often?

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Nope. Because on the lockscreen and when i slide down the notification/quick setting panel, it is just normal, oled black.

[–] cyrus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

is this everywhere on the device?

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] cyrus@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for the late reply, that shadow is present in most launchers as a default option to create contrast between the wallpaper and status icons.

Things like Nova Launcher and Lawnchair have options to disable it.

[–] Boeddabart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah i've noticed it recently in Lawnchair. But thanks anyway. Terrible design choice from Google if you ask me...