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4 hottest days ever observed raise fears of a planet nearing ‘tipping points’
(www.washingtonpost.com)
Nearing?
this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2024
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We may not have reached a tipping point scientifically, but sociologically we're long past it. No one seems to be concerned. I see all my friends still pumping out kids and I'm like "you'll be lucky if this child makes it to adulthood". The climate in the last 5 years is just changing at an unbelievable pace. Large portions of the world will be completely uninhabitable in like 10-20 years. Resources will be scarce. Mad Max is coming.
People simply can't/won't hear it. Society is clinging to any doubt or contrary viewpoint (and oil companies and their paid shills provide plenty) because it is difficult to envision the delicate and finite nature of our situation. Triggered methane releases are currently ratcheting up the warming, you can't refreeze the permafrost, it rapidly cooks the planet.
No one wants to believe it, but this is the end unless dramatic changes are made. Having children, at this juncture, with what we know, is profoundly selfish. And folks cannot accept this, let alone, the changes that must be made, systemically, for society to survive.
Having children, at this juncture, with what we know, is profoundly selfish
Not just having children, but raising them to continue the same "driving huge SUV everywhere" costco lifestyle that got us into this mess
This is all a red herring. Our SUV’s, stupid as they may be, are statistically barely relevant compared to effects of corporate greed and pollution on the rest of us. Point the blame where it belongs: at the ruling class for having the knowledge and means to have avoided all of this, but chose not to.
You always see this opinion on reddit and lemmy that corporate greed is the root of all evil in a vacuum.
It feels good cause it removes any guilt from the individual, but at the end of the day corporation provides good and service to the society. If people stopped using AI, eating meat, wanting SUV etc, corporation would turn to others products.
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Danish right-wingers calls childless people "unpatriotic" because we will not have anyone to take care of us when we're old. Hahaha, I'll have the last laugh when people realise the world has gone to shit.
Hey! Do you have any data on which areas might become uninhabitable in which scenarios and timeframes?
In the US, heat waves and hurricanes are hitting the south worse every year. The west is on fire and out of water. New York City is flooding more every year.
Move to Minnesota.
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It amazes me how long the messaging is muted. Permafrost started releasing methane in the twenty teens and folks still seem to think we will keep it below 1.5 or even 2 if we stop emitting.
Climate scientists straight up said they don't want to talk about the higher temperature cases because they think people will just zone out.
In other words the bulk of us are not expected to survive that scenario.
So in true human fashion we're going to work like we're limiting it at 2 degrees "because it has to stop there."
Maybe from the other side?
That would imply things getting better
2027: Atmospheric Fireballs Incinerate Thousands, Scientists Warn Climate May Be Unstable
SP500 at all time high
SPF500 too.
Just wait until the lava people surface and invade
But have you considered corporation's rights to use the equivalent of a small country of electricity on the latest money making boondoggle?
Do you know just how much cheaper you can make things for in a third world factory that doesn't have to obey our stringent environmental regulations, and then shipped halfway across the world on a big dirty old boat? Those are important savings that we could be passing onto our most valued customers - the shareholders!
"nearing"
Yeah.
It's cool bruh, we can just reverse it if things start getting uncomfortably warm.
Just turn the dial to 70, why hasn't anyone done that yet?!
Dad said don't touch the thermostat
Who could have guessed??? Anyway it's important to think about the economy now, but only short term of course! /s
Will somebody think about the shareholders!!
Obligatory reminder that mother nature has killed civilization before and can do it again whenever she wants.
Humans looooove to play pretend we're this world's owners and masters 😂
I will admit that we're unlikely to care if civilization ends. Because it's very likely we'll die in the first wave.
I know this labels me as a bad person, but I can't really root for us anymore. We were handed dominion over paradise, but it was never enough, and even now, as the writing is on the wall, most of us lament our plight rather than the innumerable species, different but not inferior to homosapien, living in generational homeostasis that we're going to take down with us while singing woe is us.
I reject rooting for such a vile home team, merely because it is the home team.
I take infinite solace knowing that while we will decimate surface and shallow water life, even our toolbox of horrors can't sterilize our mother, and after she's dealt with us, she will heal in just a couple million years, nothing to her 3.8 billion year old story of life, and paradise will be restored, until the next macro-cancer evolves at least. We weren't even the first, though we were the first that we know of with a choice. The Carboniferous period gave way to an ice age mass extinction due to trees doing the opposite of what we're doing, capturing too much carbon before the life that could decompose them efficiently had evolved. This is where much of our lovely coal comes from.
Wasn't their fault. They were trees. We can do better, we know better, our brightest have been begging us for a century to heed the data, we just won't stop.
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We can't see or judge the tipping point anymore because we already passed it.
It's like looking for that highway road sign without realizing you drove past it half an hour ago.
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Four hottest days observed so far.
This year alone.
Yeah, we get it. Everything is fucked.
I love how my boomer father complained for 15 minutes about how fucking hot it's been of late, to then just add "... And for sure THEY will say this is all climate change" and then explained how golf courses were better for the environment than forests because they have more green surface per unit of land.
I usually rebuke, this time I'll let old age do it's thing
Somebody was trying to tell me how golf courses manage water better than nature. They absolutely could not understand that a golf course in the middle of the desert has obliterated nature and is diverting water from the larger ecosystem.
I'm commuting by bike, consuming less, composting everything, recycling,and doing all sorts of other shit, but these rich assholes gotta make a huge profit so here we are. It's infuriating and depressing but what can I do? Just fucking die from heat stroke I guess.
Those rich people have names and addresses. And they can be made examples of.
We literally need to start composting the richest arseholes.
Wow, what planet is that?
Baby, you ain’t seen nothing yet!
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