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As one of many reasons for xenophobia and racism is the dehumanisation of people who are different, Detroit might help racists step in the shoes of marginalised groups and see how most of them are just victims of racist societies, kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The initial scene with Marcus is pretty powerful to show senseless violence against non-humans. Detroit continues to show how one can become human or become emotionally intelligent instead. Sadly most racists are human...

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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying, but I doubt a racist lacking the empathy towards fellow humans will somehow develop empathy towards robots.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

The point is: you play as the robots. They don't play as an immigrant IRL.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't think particularly ham-fisted and unsubtle allegory about racism is going to do anything to convince racists that decades of drastically better media on the same subject hasn't done.

[–] maniel@beehaw.org 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, like with The Boys series conservatives thought of Homelander as a protagonist, the good guy, a role model

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Good point, but the protagonists in Detroit are the marginalized.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which drastically better media?

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

12 Years a Slave and Django Unchained are the two movies that immediately come to mind -- obviously these are specifically focused on American slavery instead of racism generally, but they're both excellent, and one's entertaining while the other is devastating (though obviously both are both).

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why/how are these movies better than Detroit, which is an interactive experience?

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because Detroit: Become Human is written by David Cage who writes on about a 8th grade writing level and has all the subtlety of The Rock declaring his next finisher.

Do you honestly think this game is on par with those movies? I think that's borderline insulting tbh

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

No, I just wanted to hear your reasoning why this would be better to teach racists.

Usually racists don't care about a writing level above 8th grade. Most of them never finished high school.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I gained sympathy for artificial intelligence and robots from Detroit: Become Human, I think I missed the social message it was portraying in lieu of the science fiction one.

I see an enormous amount of fear and hate being levied out towards artificial intelligence currently around the world, fears it'll take away jobs and opportunities from real humans, or launch the nukes or something.

I think it's important to not be racist rowards other humans and organics, but also to be kind to non-humans, machines, and animals. Have compassion towards all sentient beings.

[–] Helix@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

I think I missed the social message it was portraying in lieu of the science fiction one.

That's alarming, since the social message gets hammered in time and time again to the point of it being overexplained.

Your comment made me reconsider if the experience would be something to make a racist think about his own racism, if people who assumedly are not racists don't even see the message.