this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2024
107 points (99.1% liked)

World News

39082 readers
2838 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

MEXICO CITY (AP) — A new era is coming for Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa cartel in the wake of the capture by U.S. authorities of Ismael “El Mayo” Zambada, the last of the grand old Mexican drug traffickers.

Experts believe his arrest will usher in a new wave of violence in Mexico even as Zambada could potentially provide loads of information for U.S. prosecutors.

Zambada, who had eluded authorities for decades and had never set foot in prison, was known for being an astute operator, skilled at corrupting officials and having an ability to negotiate with everyone, including rivals.

Removing him from the criminal landscape could set off an internal war for control of the cartel that has a global reach — as has occurred with the arrest or killings of other kingpins — and open the door to the more violent inclinations of a younger generation of Sinaloa traffickers, experts say.

With that in mind, the Mexican government deployed 200 members of its special forces Friday to Culiacan, Sinaloa state’s capital.

There is “significant potential for high escalation of violence across Mexico,” said Vanda Felbab-Brown, a senior fellow in the Strobe Talbott Center for Security, Strategy and Technology at the Brookings Institution. That “is bad for Mexico, it’s bad for the United States, as well as the possibility that the even more vicious (Jalisco New Generation cartel) will rise to even greater importance.”

top 10 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is it just me, or is the article trying to make the point that arresting the drug lord was a bad thing?

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, from a purely imperical viewpoint, it kind of is. Pros: a criminal is captured and potentially made to suffer in some way, which somehow balances out the cosmic scales of justice or something; this high ranking criminal can be plumbed for information, which has many assets seizing and additional criminal capturing implications. Cons: there is no reduction in criminal activity; there is actually an increase in violence and volatility; the power vacuum will inevitably be filled and essentially all the clandestine infiltration/investigation work up to this point resets to square one. Could be someone better, could be someone worse, but absolutely will be someone.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I tell people at work, the way to fix the cartel problem is to legitimize cartels. You have to appeal to the fact that people want to leave things better for future generations. Change their AOR as a business to something else. They already diversified to some legal fields. The cartels already have the logistics, communication, and infrastructure.

An organization this big doesn't disappear just because you captured the top guy. Someone will take over. That someone will usually be deadly so that they can cement their leadership.

If you convince the top guy to restructure his organization then after a few generations maybe they can have a 'me too' movement. No one likes my idea though, so I don't know if that means it's a good negotiation deal or a bad one. 😂

[–] notastatist 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why do you tell people at your work that cartels should be legalized haha

[–] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

Hah, you got me. The CIA infiltrated Lemmy.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

We talk politics and current events sometimes. People also like coming by the office to let off steam about work. The time I brought it up was after that Mormon family got shot up by the cartels. I think the victims were in 2 different vehicles and the cartels stopped them and killed everyone.

We have interesting conversations.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Because it often is. These types of immediate and chaotic power vacuums are generally only filled after an enormous and destructive blood letting, and there's no guarantees that the baseline level of violence will return to earlier levels after the dust settles.

Of course, if you don't consider, or care about, the violent struggles that will result, or it's collateral damage on civilian populations, then that value proposition may work out differently.

[–] legion02@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What's the alternative though?

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Elect the criminal President?