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Hey, German here. What the f*** are Americans doing at the other side of the Atlantic? Some of you already know this monstrosity. I did'nt. This is a Ford F650 Truck and when I stepped out of my Youtube Bubble I realized, it was marketed as the "biggest, baddest Truck on the road" for the everyday American. Are you guys serious?! Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry? Americas bloodiest wars have been fought in the middle east to secure oil, bombing nations to rubble. And all, for this bullshit? The excess, waste and decadence is mind boggling to me and people on Reddit seriously justifying this by "you know dude I'm 6,4ft. I don't fit in any other vehicle" makes me go up the wall.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

The year is 2068. Everyone takes the bus to work. Their own personal bus.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you want to be even more outraged by American stupidity, look up “rolling coal”. In short, morons buy large trucks like this and purposely detune their emissions systems to run poorly, decreasing fuel efficiency and spewing soot laden exhaust. The only purpose to do this is to piss off liberals, apparently.

[–] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You're joking? Oh my,... you're not.

[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most trucks are not this big, but some people definitely push the limits of useful or wise.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

~~Still, it is marketed as an “everyday vehicle”, which is nothing short of insane.~~

Edit: OP misquoted the article and I fell for it

[–] Dettweiler42@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

it was marketed as the "biggest, baddest Truck on the road" for the everyday American

Blame the OP

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the biggest baddest truck

They certainly know their target audience: 6 year olds

[–] Dettweiler42@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The F650 is pretty much the last thing you buy before you need a proper semi/tractor truck. I have seen a few, and known someone with one; and they routinely use it for cash hauls to make a living. Paying LTL (less than truck load) rates are very expensive and slow compared to hiring a contractor to haul something you need in a timely manner. The guy I knew that owned one used it to make a living hauling farm and construction equipment long distances.

Most F650's that are produced will not have a bed, because they either get fitted with a flatbed or a cargo box.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

how is this an appropriate vehicle for transporting goods?

The empty mass is huge and the loadbed is small. So the fuel efficiency and therefore cost efficiency is poor as well.

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can you name the truck with four wheel drive, smells like steak and seats thirty five?

Canyonero!

12 yards long, two lanes wide, 65 tones of American Pride!

Canyonero!!!

https://youtu.be/PI_Jl5WFQkA?si=Ly_7PhJ2IOzFXTDB

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

[–] TheOgreChef@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

She blinds everybody with her super high beams,

She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine

Canyoneroooooooooo

[–] w00@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

Hyeh Canyoneroh, hyeh!

[–] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

When you see Mad Max Scenes from the original Film of the 80s. It's so laughable. If ever some kind of civil war scenario breaks out in the Us. Nevada and Texas will host real life Mad Max with armored tank trucks guzzling 30l pro 100km build by Dodge. (I know I know, dont make me write it in gallons.)

[–] jackoneill@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m 6’8” and I drive a Honda accord. I’m fat too. No excuse man

[–] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] loxo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Maybe in Germany "good boy" can be said in earnest, but know that "good boy" in the US is typically condescending when referring to an adult.

[–] noobnarski@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

As a German I dont get trucks at all.

If you need a lot of loading capacity, a van is almost always the better choice.

Especially when you sometimes need to carry a lot of people and other times a lot of material. You can just take the back seats out or fold them down, now you can use the same space for two different purposes.

And you can even install shelves for your tools and material, they are also protected from the weather and some thieves.

I have a Nissan NV-200 (which is almost too small to be considered a van) and I can seat 7 people or I can remove/fold away the backseats and I can suddenly carry more than I almost always need.

It is Diesel and right now I get 7l/100km (33mpg) even though I dont have a fuel saving driving style. I did some experiments when I was on vacation, if I drive a constant 120kph (74mph) I get 6l/100km (39mpg). If I drive around 90kph (56mph) behind commercial trucks, not hugging them but following them so I dont hold up traffic anymore than they do, I get between 4 and 5l/100km (59-47mpg).

Try doing that with a truck, especially when its got a big V8 engine that basically just burns fuel for nothing.

[–] ZeroTHM@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This truck is almost explicitly a fleet vehicle for construction and the like. Pretending encountering this $150,000 work vehicle is a common occurrence is super disingenuous.

If you're gonna be scared of trucks, we least be scared of the ones you actually see.

[–] muelltonne@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

But what kind of work? It doesn't have a huge bed. The bed is really high and loading/unloading stuff will be difficult. It looks extremly heavy and big, so driving it on small dirt roads will be impossible. And you don't see vehicles like that here in Europe, even as work vehicles. The european industry is build on white sprinter vans. So what are you doing with this one here?

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You know this is by no means a common vehicle right? I’ve never seen one outside of a few pictures only found on anti-car posts. F350s are even rare to see on the roads, F150s are more common than grass and F250s are a daily sight unfortunately.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

F150s are for the weekender dads that occasionally need to haul something around. F250s and 350s are for people that actually work (usually) this monstrosity is bullshit, anyone that genuinely needs that much truck buys an actual semi or something.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Econoline (and maybe the Transit) seems to be the vehicle of choice for people who actually work.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Vans don't work for a lot of people that need a pick up bed.

[–] bearfootbees@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm 6'4, 250 lbs. Canadian

I drive an 02 golf. Before this, a Toyota 4runner (1st gen).

I'm not trying to brag... But I think it's not a "I'm too big for anything smaller" it's a "I'm too insecure for anything smaller", aka "my dick is too small for anything smaller" syndrome.

I've recently made friends with a group of Germans who have come to Canada. I'm astonished by the practicality and industriousness I've noticed in contrast to the idiocy of most Canadians. I'm not saying you don't have any idiots in Germany. I'm just saying culturally, there seem to be some big differences.

Remember, don't let the dumbest of the world ruin your happiness.

Prost

[–] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"Prost, Kollege". Yeah we got our fair shair of idiots too. The mind virus of trucks is infecting some of our fellow citizens. But I guess high gas prices and smaller roads shielded us from much of this development. The next OPEC manufactured oil crisis will probably put an end to this. Anyway, "servus" and greetings to Canada.

[–] DrFuggles@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's been my experience as someone who's lived abroad a couple of years that in general, if you meet expats, they tend to be from the upper echelons of their native societies. They tend to be well educated and they have the time, the resources, the high-paying and internationally In-demand jobs, the language as well as the motivation to go abroad and experience something new. The expats you meet also don't have anything holding them back, like E. G. a sickly relative.

All these filters make it more likely to meet interesting people.

[–] Tum@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why d'you call them expats and not immigrants?

[–] DrFuggles@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Because I'm not a native speaker and I thought that was the right word 🤷‍♂️

[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok, see to put thin in context a little bit, this truck is not for, nor is it even marketed towards regular people. This is a modular truck, so this is going to be converted into ambulances, tow trucks, bucket trucks, etc. This one does have a bed on it, but they had to get one from like an F-350 and modify it to get it to fit. And while you can buy this truck, it's not really a thing on roads here.

[–] toff@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Btw... German car companies built those monstrosities...

The Unimog U500 was more or less just a marketing gag, but the G63 was a real thing...

[–] Fiona@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

What’s supposed to be the deal with the Unimog? It’s an off-road capable military/commercial vehicle that is used pretty much exclusively for those kinds of things. I don’t know the guy in the video, but calling the version that he had “luxurious” was patently absurd: Things like climate control can be legally required if you want to tell your employees to work in these vehicles in extreme weathers (and: Germany can get quite hot as well) and didn’t match at all what he was showing. Also: Because it has an additional cabin to transport more people it is a family-version? WTF? The primary use-case for that is if you need to transport several employees to somewhere. Which is not at all an absurd thing if you are talking farmers/military/fire-brigade/construction/…

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’m not defending the truck or America but I don’t think that one is common outside of industry. I live in the South and have never seen one. F150’s are very common, you see F250’s here and there, and F350s are basically exclusively work trucks. I didn’t even know it went up to F650 (the F750 apparently exists but seems like it’s really only for industry).

Ford’s web site has them “starting at” $80k but without a bed or any consumer features. It seems like they’re more the base for order things like fleets of tow trucks or dump trucks. I’m sure a mega rich person can buy one but it’s probably a weird custom thing that costs $200,000 and is missing whatever creature comforts go into vanity trucks.

[–] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Maybe not that recent "https://www.worktruckonline.com/335688/ford-reports-record-sales-of-the-f-650-and-f-750". But I guess, enough guys buy em.

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And I'm sure there are no over the top vehicles in Germany....

[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are some morons here that are buying American made "trucks". More and more unfortunately, but it's still pretty rare. Luckily it's damn inconvenient to drive or park them in many places here.

[–] chocoladisco@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Sadly they are becoming more by the day. The amount of Hiluxes is also steadily increasing in my neighborhood.