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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Am I being an idiot for thinking that protesting like this, when the union is relatively small is counterproductive? I'd think I'd want to represent the majority of the workers, then protest or outright strike which will halt the cloud operations they want to halt, if that's what the majority of union members vote to do.

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So You think they shouldn't have done anything, because the union is not big enough? Moral is not an option with a small union? Am I getting this right?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think it depends on the goal. If I'm trying to stop a corporation from doing something profitable a large union, one that contains most corpo workers, including the ones producing this profit, can strike, halting the production that generates this profit. The union could do this for a moral reason. If the union however contains for the sake of argument 1% of the workers and none of the ones doing the work in question, then staging a protest can't force a stop to the morally reprehensible production. It also makes this 1% an easy target to get rid of thus making it harder to organize more workers needed to stop production. So if I wanted to gain this power over the corpo, I would probably protest outside of union capacity.

E: They're already gone..

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, american employee protection sucks ... Where I live you could easily fight being fired for this. So maybe thats where our different stances come from.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If there is a criminal charge or conviction I think you would be fired in most countries.

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What would be the crime here? Am I missing something? Protesting is not (or shouldn't be) against the law, as long as you don't behave illegally)

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reports seems to indicate that they were arrested for trespassing.

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ah that, yeah they were in the CEOs office. That might be misdemeanor, but is it a felony? Pretty sure you couldn't be fired for this here.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, but it seems that at least it is enough to be arrested.

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago
[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the U.S., you can be fired for practically anything.

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah, probably

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Seems misleading, as I highly doubt they were charged with "protesting contract with Israel". Is that a misdemeanor?

Also love that Google workers suddenly grew a conscience

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a trespassing charge from what I could find. Although there are laws against boycotting Israel

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/feb/21/us-supreme-court-arkansas-anti-boycott-israel-law

[–] WallEx@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

Thats so wild