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Is there a word that means "a hatred of gay people", rather than "a fear of or aversion to gay people"? Surely there are people who simply hate homosexuality without necessarily fearing it, and vice versa. Someone who hates homosexuality should probably be condemned for their unreasonable and hateful prejudices, but should someone who actually fears homosexuality but without hating it be condemned in the same way? Why isn't there a distinction?

And similarly, why do we have words like "arachnophobia" which means a fear of something (not necessarily a hatred of it; though you might hate what you fear, that isn't necessarily always the case, nor is the opposite always true either (fearing what you hate)), but "homophobia" is used to mean "hatred of homosexuality" rather than a genuine fear of it without necessarily hating it?

It makes me feel a bit sorry (as much as one can) for people who might genuinely be afraid of the idea of homosexuality, maybe even struggling with their own sexuality or possibly in denial of being homosexual themself, but without hating it at all (even possibly being supportive of it), not having a word that conveys a fear of the concept/phenomenon without any kind of disdain for it, since "homophobia" would generally be interpreted to mean something far more negative. Usually when someone has a phobia for something, we support them to deal with it in a non-accusatory way, but in this case, well, I guess there isn't even a word for that kind of phobia if it's actually a phobia in the usual sense.

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is there a word that means “a hatred of gay people”, rather than “a fear of or aversion to gay people”?

No, because that's just semantic wiggle room to give bigots a way of excusing their bigotry.

For example. "I don't hate gay people, and I'm not afraid of them, so I'm not homophobic. I just don't want to see them, and they shouldn't be able to get married". It's a statement that is clearly biased against queer folk, and that's the issue that needs to be addressed. But discussions like the one you're suggesting just lead to irrelevant arguments over exactly what type of bigotry is being displayed, rather than telling the bigot to get bent, which suits the needs of the bigots fine.

[–] Lafari@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I appreciate what you're saying, certainly someone could claim to be just afraid of homosexuality while using that as a cover for actually hating it or being prejudiced against it or homosexual people. But I think bigotry, meaning "obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group", doesn't exactly fit the hypothetical I described of a person who's just afraid of the concept without harboring any hateful feelings or displaying any discriminatory behaviors toward it. Shouldn't we help that person come to terms with their fear and be understanding, while certainly helping them to tackle that fear (without accusing them of doing something wrong, presuming that they weren't hypothetically)?

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

doesn’t exactly fit the hypothetical I described of a person who’s just afraid of the concept without harboring any hateful feelings or displaying any discriminatory behaviors toward it.

I can't think of a single example of this in reality. Phobia isn't 'just afraid' in the context you're using, it's an irrational terror. People who are arachnophobic aren't 'just afraid' they're terrified of spiders. That is due to an inherent part of our past (as humans) that taught us spiders/snakes/etc were a danger and to avoid them, and for these people their brain changes 'I should avoid that danger' to 'I should do literally anything to get away from that danger.'

There's no precedent for 'people of the same gender who love each other' being a source of terror. Nothing in our collective past would cause that.

[–] Lafari@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Who said fears need to be rational? I think people can be afraid/terrified of anything. Anatidaephobia (the fear of being watched by a duck or goose), for example.

[–] Herbstzeitlose@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

Psst, anatidaephobia isn't real. It's a term coined by a comedian.

[–] Herbstzeitlose@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

What an absurd (and arguably harmful) distinction to make. Nobody is "afraid of homosexuality" for reasons unrelated to homophobia.

[–] je_skirata@lemmy.today 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The suffix -misia meana hatred. Both -misia and -phobia come from Greek.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/-misia

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 0 points 7 months ago

isn't misia used as a prefix? As in Misanthrop or Misogyn