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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/8083028

And no IPad version to

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[–] parascent@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does WhatsApp have a non web version?

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] jannis@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

It's just a progressive web app, so Meta might as well port it to Linux

[–] 30p87@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, Signal, Threema and Discord use Electron, and therefore are just crappy bullshit on Wayland.
Using a dedicated FF instance uses less RAM, CPU and disk space, and gives you more control over the application/website.

Discord has a web version, even if it doesn't support some features, so I use it in FF. WhatsApp has a web version, so I use it in FF.
Signal does not. So it's barely usable on my Nvidia desktop.
We do not need ""native"" Applications, made with a mix of a web version and a D tier browser engine, if we could just use the already installed, better and perfectly working browser.

  • Discords Electron was outdated and vulnerable for years, FF would be patched in days or hours in case of a zero day.
  • Electron uses much more resources than FF. Because every company thinks they need a custom version of electron, every app brings its own bloaty electron environment, despite there being a system one.
  • Electron/Chromium is extremely buggy on Wayland + Nvidia, to the point I cannot use Spotify, Discord or Steam correctly.
[–] far_university1990@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Can we have electron, but based on gecko and unable to ship its own gecko?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Fuck monopolies

[–] root@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Switched to Matrix pretty recently, and it's been surprisingly nice to use

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I heard XMPP is better though. Servers are way less hard on resources, its way simpler and just as secure. Decentralization, you can share all sorts of files and all, but video calls are simply done by another provider like Jitsi

[–] anon5621@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I am using both for enough long time,mutlidevice synchronization it's nightmare in xmpp,also usual xmpp isplaintext.So when u wanna use encryptions like omemo so far not always guaranteed that ur encryption key will be delivered to ur new device which u connected.Also u cannot control sessions.So if u would be hacked u would not be notified,and u don't have ability to kick out this dude session.But yes xmpp more light about resources and works faster for now.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the info!

Yeah sessions should be controlled but are a pretty modern feature. Simply using strong passwords or even hardare OTP would be great. But for sure, a downside.

Transferring private keys is interesting, this is pretty userul, true. signal to this day does not work here for me, so I prefer using it as a messenger, for temporary things. Afaik my matrix experience was better here.