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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were those "free palestine" arrests or legit antisemitism?

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

You decide:

One suspect allegedly sent a sticker in a WhatsApp school class chat with the words “Gas the Jews.” Another person, a German-Turkish dual citizen, allegedly posted on his account that “the Jewish sons” deserved nothing more than to be “exterminated,” dpa reported.

and from a German source:

A German-Turkish defendant is said to have posted on his account that "the Jewish sons" deserved nothing more than to be slaughtered "and exterminated".

and

According to the LKA, a Turkish citizen posted a picture of Hitler shortly after October 7, adding: "I could kill all the Jews, but I left some alive to show you why I killed them." Next to it, he posted a Palestinian flag, the caption "Free Palestine" and an emoji with a victory sign.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being against antisemitism laws

Nazis 🤝 Palestine supporters

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well what is considered antisemitism under the law? Is saying death to Jews or is it questioning the murder of civilians and bombing of refugee camps?

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

From the article you're commenting on:

The suspects were said to have celebrated the attacks by Palestinian militant group Hamas on Israel on Oct. 7, and were accused of spreading hate speech against Jewish people on social media, using symbols of banned terrorist organizations, dpa reported.

and

One suspect allegedly sent a sticker in a WhatsApp school class chat with the words “Gas the Jews.” Another person, a German-Turkish dual citizen, allegedly posted on his account that “the Jewish sons” deserved nothing more than to be “exterminated,” dpa reported.

So probably more the category "celebrating antisemitic terrorism" and "calling for the extermination of all Jews."

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This made me think because raiding peoples homes doesn't seem right, but saying things like this definitely isn't right.

In the end I think a inclusive society should exclude it's exclusive elements.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That makes us no better than them tho.

[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what those fuckers want you to think.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So its ok when we silence a group of people for their beliefs but not when they do it?

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When those beliefs involve the eradication of anyone who isn't exactly like you, yes.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we should silence all the religouse fundamentalists as well?

[–] Kleinbonum@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

If they call for genocide? Yes, of course.

What makes you think society should just sit idly by and do nothing when people call for mass murder and genocide?

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you want a tolerant society, you cannot tolerate the intolerant.

If you want democracy, you must suppress anti-democratic ideas.

You have to fight for want you believe in, and not let antithetical ideas fester and subvert yours, just because they exploit your tolerance and use the space you give them to fight it.

[–] momo420@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but your methodology for determining what is an anti-democratic idea should be really tight, before you raid/arrest people.

No one wants murders in their society, but showing that they did that action is more important than stating that an action is wrong/anti-democratic/immoral etc.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

How do you suppose they should have proceeded instead?

[–] Obonga@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine your dumb fuck of a child sending antisemitic hate shit through his phone and a few days later the police raids your home and takes all your devices. Absolute nightmare.

[–] tory@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of the suspects were apparently over 18.

[–] Obonga@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah sure mate, i bet everyone you know moved out of their parents home by 18?