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There is this common narrative I see all the time, implying that we as individuals are empowered to choose and manifest our own destiny, and this comes up often in privacy discussions.

Don't like Facebook's privacy nightmares? Just don't use Facebook!

Don't like personalized ads? I remember a popular post on reddit saying "if your ad interrupts my YouTube video, I will hate your product".

Don't like Google chrome hegemony? Just use Firefox!

And while I agree that we should strive to do that, the battle doesn't end here. Facebook has shadow accounts for people who never signed up. Google chrome keeps it's hegemony despite people on the Internet advocating Firefox day and night. And ads continue to be extremely profitable despite you "hating the product" because it interrupted your YouTube video.

Even worse: even if you "hate the product", you now already know it. You now know they product exists, and possibly whatever they wanted you to know about it. The reality is that these companies own your eyes. They control what shows up on your screen. And even if you hate it, they control what you end up learning.

the reality is that our individual resistance is very far from enough

I am not saying it is completely futile. It is a step in the right direction. But the only effective solution is organized action. We, alone, cannot achieve much. Unless we organize our resistance against privacy violations, we will continue to live through this privacy nightmare.

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Facebook has shadow accounts for people who never signed up.

Can someone please explain how they are doing this?

  1. Use Adblocker
  2. Use DNS filter
  3. DoH to prevent MiTM/use your own resolver in Unbound.
  4. ~~I'm still trying to look up how to prevent ISPs from logging my SNI~~ Well, it seems Cloudflare and other domain service providers have implemented ESNI.
[–] emptyother@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Friends, family, and even people you briefly meet, rat you out. Often without them even knowing by sharing their list of phone contacts.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And what happens when you change your phone number? Does that become a new shadow profile? What of they change your name in their contact list? I'm trying to gauge how Facebook handles the inconsistencies of navigating contacts who don't have Facebook accounts

[–] xvlc@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

We can only guess. But they can probably detect contacts for which the phone number is updated or which have several assigned phone numbers.