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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

I'm just really wondering... To the trump voters in the US, is this what you wanted? Do you really think and feel that things have improved? Do you really think the world is a better, safer, place now than it was 10 years ago?

It's like, we had issues for sure, but they were manageable. We had climate change at a critical level but we could still stave off the worst of it and now we're speed running to something worse than the worst predictions that were made. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if earth is like Venus not 200 years from now due to some runaway effect.

I mean, we had a nice run but fuck you, you really really ruined the world for everyone including yourself. I sincerely hope you're happy because then at least someone will before were all dead.

Fuck you.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Kind of feels like there's two kinds of people out there right now in the US. Once you think we're fucked, and the ones who think they have enough generational wealth that "their" kids won't be fucked.

There's probably a sizeable third pool out there that are just watching propaganda and going everything is fine everybody's overreacting or I don't care it doesn't affect me. I think even that pool's shrinking a bit.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

There's also people who are absolutely going to get fucked but are still living in a comfortable dream-world where they think someone is going to come make everything normal again.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 22 hours ago

Some of us know its fucked and are just trying to get by.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are whole swathes of us who are still foolishly optimistic enough to think we can pull ourselves out of this nose dive too.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I fear we're into parachute territory, we'll need to rebuild the plane from parts after we touch down.

Please don't let it be a Lost sequel...Please.....

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

optimistic enough to think we can pull ourselves out of this nose dive

To be precise, they think someone else is going to pull us out of the nose-dive, and that because we've had a lifetime of comforts and status-quo, there's no chance of bad things happening to them personally... that's just stuff that happens on TV, right???

[–] CannedCairn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Am 39 and feel this

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

That's nonsense.

Good things will be happening all the time!

Just not to you.

[–] bremen15 3 points 1 day ago

... and I can see how I contributed to things going to shit, too. And I did a lot of good things, too.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hell, I'm 46 and it's really hard to not be cynical these days. I want to believe there's still good people out there but I run into so many assholes.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm also 40 something. Oh for the dizzy optimism of the 90s...

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I will forever seethe that I missed out on the 1990s, especially considering how IT was a money printer back then & the rave scene was top notch. I just about caught the tail end of the old internet as well, even that has gone to complete corporate dogshit.

And owning a house wasnt a Pipedream : (

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

I got in on the 90's dream and had a house with a handshake and a smile, lost it eventually because of family medical problems. Probably will never own a home again.

'Murca.

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[–] ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I am over 60 and I can plainly see everything it fucked.

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[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Half a century here, I've never had a time in my life where the next year was better than the last

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Same age-ish, and I feel the same.

The hard part is trying to figure out what part of that comes from societal collapse, and how much of that comes from just getting older and seeing more and more of how the world works... or doesn't work.

Despite all we see and hear, objectively the world is better than it's ever been. We are at a shocking low level of international conflict, starvation, disease, crime, famine, even teen pregnancy has fallen to the lowest rates we've ever seen.

But all of these gains have been made by people forming communities of various kinds, of linking up, sharing ideals and compiling resources. This "downturn" we're feeling is a localized result of a lot of people turning their backs on community.

We are incredibly communal animals, we need social identities to survive. This has been studied. When community abandons you, or when it feels like they have, people broadly stop caring about things and themselves and become selfish, bitter, cynical and hateful. We're feeling this all around us, and inside us. And I don't think it's a natural phenomenon, there are active groups working to cause this, they want to undo all that progress and bypass war and pillaging and destruction and just rot out the world's wealthiest countries from the inside out.

I don't know if these objective, global gains will continue for everyone. But I fully believe that the USA at least is in a nose-dive it won't pull out of. Things are breaking as we speak, in ways we can't repair.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 144 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm over 40 and struggling not to conclude life on this planet peaked 30 years ago

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (8 children)

The 90s were seriously such a bop.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 days ago (10 children)

At this point we have to contend with small wins like Die Linke getting almost 10% of the vote in Germany, Elon Musk getting bullied out of politics, and Carney winning in Canada.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately Musk didn't get bullied out of politics, his office was always meant to expire at the beginning of May. He achieved what he set out to do: dismantling federal government completely to make deruglation, tax avoidance and corruption much easier.

This is just him doing the typical right wing martyrdom whining whenever somebody criticises them.

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[–] Floosh@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago

I'm glad to see folks talking on here. Makes me feel better knowing we're here all going through it. Gives me that Band of Brothers vibe "We stand alone, together."

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Everyone over 40: "Yup, social media has really fucked those kids' brains up"

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

I am well over 40 and I agree with OP. Then again, I didn't give up my empathy at the door to adulthood.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Whereas the reality is that things are so fucked because these idiots get their news from Facebook. The Trump administration admitted to making a mistake deporting Kilmer Garcia - they’ll never find out because they’re too busy sharing OAN articles about that trans women they bullied out of fencing.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 91 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A while ago, I was talking to my mum and offhandedly said that I'd have to move north at some point in my life, due to climate change. For me, that's just a given, with record hottest summers coming in regularly and current summers already incapacitating me for weeks at a time.

But my mum's reaction was basically "What's this about now?". She's lived in her childhood town or close-by for basically her whole life. And she's old enough that she doesn't have to worry about the aftermath. But yeah, that was still brutal, how different our realities were in that regard.

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[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 113 points 2 days ago

I remember agreeing with that back in 2021 when it was posted, and now, well...

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Well, interestingly, gen z men are the Trumpiest demographic:

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/11/american-gen-z-podcasts-trump-harris

I guess the meme still holds true, but their concerns about the future are very different. TBH I can totally understand them becoming disillusioned with other old politicians following old voters who will just “do nothing at let it all happen.”

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 80 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the saddiest shit ever. Young men being angry at the « Men » will vote for the men that will sold them to the bone mill in a heart beat.

There’s a Turkish proverb : and the forest vote for the axe because they where made of the same wood

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 45 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I know a surprisingly large amount of MAGA/Trump adjacent fans because of my type of work.

  • They're all single dudes. Maybe divorced. Maybe never went on a date.
  • There's Joe Rogan involved.
  • After a few beers, they all will unprompted share their views on Jews, blacks, trans, lesbians, or some other racist shit then back off and pretend it's just a joke.
  • Tell them anything involving empathy "Sorry your dog died" is met with silence or coldness.
  • They all don't give a shit about anybody else besides themselves. And often see themselves as the victim. "Oh Trans person was brutally beaten? Yeah it's a violent world like one time some guy threatened me gotta stay strapped."
  • They may not like Trump's antics. But to them, the Democrats aren't helping THEM. Remember that lack of empathy?
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[–] ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone 100 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I landed a job a job at a company that’s circling the drain, I feel like a parasite feeding off a host until it’s gone and I move to a new one

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 86 points 2 days ago (10 children)

I'm a public librarian. Just dreading the day we are defunded. They’ve already attacked our national orgs.

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