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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!

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Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.

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Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.

Revisionism — No downplaying or denying atrocities past and present. Calling Tankies shills, foreign/federal agents, or bots also falls under this rule. Extremists exist. They are real. Do not call them shills or fake users as it handwaves their extremism.

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You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.

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Good job everyone blocking and boycotting .ml! It's having an effect, users are noticing and MAUs on their comms are falling! (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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And for anyone asking "Why are we boycotting/blocking lemmy.ml?" Here's a quick recap:

Lemmy.ml is an instance run by admins who are hardcore tankies and will enforce their ideology on their instance through various means from allowing (and pushing it themselves) propaganda (Such as Russia being justified in some way to invade Ukraine) and known propaganda outlets (Like RT) to removing content on their instance critical of their favored authoritarian regimes such as Russia or China and even banning users for such speech or speech critical of them if it's off their instance (Just like the Reddit mods of ol!).

If it was just some random instance it would have been defederated from long ago like the rest of the "Tankie Triad" (Hexbear and Lemmygrad), but they've positioned lemmy.ml as the "flagship" instance and abused that position and influence to become large enough to keep other instances from defederating from them.

Which I believe is harmful to the Lemmy-verse's overall growth and outside reputation. I have seen it come up before on Reddit threads (and other testimonials from people who came back and tried it again) that "They tried Lemmy but it was a bunch of tankies and went back to Reddit"

I don't know about you, but I'd prefer Lemmy to not end up with the reputation for being "Tankie Central " or even worse "Voat 2.0".

So if you haven't joined the boycott yet, join today and help us foster a better healthier Lemmy-verse!

You can take a look around here on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for documentation of it or checkout this list of curated documentation

On bans and censorships:

https://lemmy.world/post/28480760

https://lemmy.world/post/28481615

https://lemmy.world/post/28482147

https://lemmy.world/post/28480936

https://lemmy.world/post/28482273

https://lemmy.world/post/28481272

https://lemmy.world/post/28481064

https://lemmy.world/post/27674360

https://lemmy.world/post/27674117

https://lemmy.world/post/27673934

https://lemmy.world/post/27673724

https://lemmy.world/post/27577337

https://lemmy.world/post/27378634

https://lemmy.world/post/27346630

https://lemmy.world/post/27341283

https://lemmy.world/post/27288224

https://lemmy.world/post/27156418

https://lemmy.world/post/27054157

https://lemmy.world/post/27008261

Allowing altered headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:

https://lemmy.world/post/28275465

https://lemmy.world/post/27428838

https://lemmy.world/post/27416097

https://lemmy.world/post/27314050

https://lemmy.world/post/27288953

Spreading Russia talking points like the Ukraine invasion just being a "negotiating tactic" !https://lemmy.world/post/27012640

General negative sentiment to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet: https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

Open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines (head admin)) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

"concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren't that bad" https://lemmy.world/post/26985447

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[–] trash@lemm.ee 4 points 50 minutes ago

I appreciate this. Id been gone from Lemmy for a bit but just unsubbed from all the .ml groups I had.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago

I always go in and argue with those Tankie fucks when I have time, but I haven't even seen them in the feeds lately.

[–] whiskeytango@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, blocked hexbear too.

Those people are absolutely fucking unhinged and do not engage in any sort of good faith argument.

After one round, I got name called, after round two asking for clarification, I just left.

Time is precious, the squirrels in my yard are more coherent than these chucklefucks.

Hell, even two crows would be better

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I just block every site and user with that ending that I see. I've been banned on almost any of their sites anyway.

[–] death@infosec.pub 17 points 5 hours ago

Lemmy .ml is partly why I switched to an instance which defederates them. The admin and mod behavior over there is gross. If it weren't run by the Lemmy devs it would be widely blocked.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 8 points 5 hours ago

You know, the differing opinion isn't so bad. It's that they're such pricks.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 14 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Lemmy.ml seems to just downvote different opinions in masse without responding with respect.

After a few attempts to engage respectfully and just getting negative interactions I just blocked them entirely.

[–] LogicalFallacy@lemm.ee 14 points 5 hours ago

I'm new here and did not realize that, at first, I was only seeing .ml. I was so uncomfortable with the Russian/Chinese propaganda I created an account and ended up switching to this community mainly by accident. Glad to see my discomfort was justified.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago

If they can't outright censor it (such as if it's off-instance) then mass downvoting is all they have left to try and control the narrative.

[–] biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

This just made me realise my feed is just that bit cleaner and there's so much less news, it's actually quite calming.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 hours ago

I was against blocking them because i dont want to create an echochamber(and i still support this on an instance level) but after they banned me and just keep downvote bombing anyone whos not a fucking poo tin or whinnie boot licker i had to block them.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I tried to tolerate .ml because they've got some good linux and foss focused communities. Ultimately I decided it wasn't worth it.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago

With genocide apologist defederated, another comnunity will surely take its place. A community that's purpose is not to poison your mind.

[–] zarniwoop@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago

Thanks for the heads up, just added to my block list.

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