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LoglineWhen the USS Enterprise investigates an attack on a colony at the edge of Federation space, Captain Pike and his crew face the return of a formidable enemy.


Written by Henry Alonso Myers

Directed by Maja Vrvilo

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[–] GaiusGornicusCaesar@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A cliffhanger... I was hoping they wouldn't introduce those. I expect Sam and M'Benga will be the only one who makes it out alive... expecting to see Sulu and Chekov introduced soon.

Edit: Also the "They've been beamed up... by the gorn" and Pike standing there has the potential to be one of the most horrifying cliffhangers in Star Trek.

2nd Edit: Not Chekov....

[–] LibraryLass@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't prime!Chekov be like 12 around this time frame?

[–] GaiusGornicusCaesar@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nevermind, forgot that Chekov wasn't introduced until Season 2... but Sulu is a possibility.

[–] angstrom@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chekov was on the Enterprise during s1. Continuity with TWOK requires it. Plus some of the star dates for s2 episodes that starred Chekov where set before the star date for Space Seed.

But yes at this point we are ~6 years before TOS so Chekov would be in his late teens.

[–] UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Plus some of the star dates for s2 episodes that starred Chekov where set before the star date for Space Seed.

Stardates in TOS (and SNW) are just random numbers. You can't extrapolate anything from them.

[–] khaosworks@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As to how they'll resolve the cliffhanger, it's probably going to be Scotty's Gorn transponder that will confuse the Gorn ships long enough for Enterprise to get in close and somehow beam the abductees back.

[–] UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or maybe Batel becomes their version of Locutus, to somehow communicate with them.

To be honest I'm still undecided whether I want the Gorn to stay this unstoppable force of horror, or to find a Trek-style form of coming to some sort of peace agreement. In that aspect I liked how Admiral April tried to keep Pike in check at the beginning of the episode.

[–] UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I loved the colony design. It kinda makes sense. There's an endless number of planets out there, so why not found a colony for your weird LARP phantasies? "Hey, you wanna join my colony reminiscent of Victorian England? There'd be bustle skirts, butlers and bat'leths."

I had a feeling right from the urgency of the first minutes that they were setting this episode up as SNW's version of "The Best of Both Worlds". And the elements are certainly there. A superior enemy. A plan to fool them with technobabble. A crewmember held hostage -- just this time it's split up between Captain Batel being infected, and La'an, M'Benga and Kirk (and colonists) captured. And a cliffhanger. I had hoped that they wouldn't do cliffhangers in this show -- especially season-ending cliffhangers when we don't even know when the next season will air. (2025 maybe?) Or if they did it then at least do it DS9 style where it's more like a teaser of things to come instead of an actual cliffhanger.

Oh well, at least they didn't kill off Batel immediately, and I hope they won't do it in season 3. I'd like to see more of her and of her relationship with Pike because I think it's a really interesting relationship dynamic for a Starfleet captain to have a truly equal partner.

I'm not quite keen on the physics in this episode. Would the Gorn really be fooled by the Cayuga's saucer suddenly "naturally" accelerating towards the planet from the orbit of its moon? That already bugged me in Star Trek Into Darkness when the ship suddenly "fell" towards Earth. Yes, this is a Science Fiction show but they could really use a science advisor for this basic stuff.

Finally, I wonder if every season will bring in another TOS cast member, and who will be next. Sulu? (he'd be an astroscientist though, unless they ignore the 2nd TOS pilot episode) Cadet Chekov? Bones? Janice Rand?

This all sounds a bit negative but I actually enjoyed the episode. It wasn't the best episode of the season but still above average. I just hope that season 3 will come rather sooner than later.

[–] erbazzone@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not the most accurate and precise regarding the lore but for what I remember of TOS (that was my favorite series) we should expect Sulu being the next one, then Bones should be in the cast together with Kirk later. Seeing that every one that will not be in TOS is now in Gorn hand's I think we already know why. I don't think it's a coincidence

[–] UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seeing that every one that will not be in TOS is now in Gorn hand’s I think we already know why.

M'Benga and Sam Kirk show up in TOS though. The only one in danger is La'an. (and I'd be pissed if something happened to her because I think that Christina Chong is a super strong actor, and possibly the breakout star of this show)

[–] erbazzone@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh that was the same doctor? Never connected the two. I was thinking also about Ortega. Sam disappeared in TOS until he died so maybe he got traumatized from the incident.

[–] UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Oops, you're right. Ortegas is there too. I completely forgot about her since she got Travis-Mayweather'd so much this season.