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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Europa is too pure and regulated to be hegemony.

Do you think the US became a superpower by being kind and egalitarian and taking it slow? Nah, they came out the gate swinging, uppercut to Hiroshima and a roundhouse to Nagasaki, and it only got worse from there. They watched the old European powers withering under the weight of colonialism and insurrection in Indochina and southeast Asia and said "I'll have a piece of that".

You don't become Hegemon by standardizing power grids and phasing out coal. You become Hegemon by selling your soul to the MIC, spinning up black site torture rooms in countries most people don't even know the names of, funnelling guns and drugs to everyone who will take them, and bringing a fucking bandolier of hand grenades to every knife fight.

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[–] Juliee@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I must say that I am prepared to die to defend Europe. It is maybe one of the last causes truly worth fighting for

If even quarter of people feel like me then we cannot be beat, we cannot be defeated. We will meet there on the Vistula river to stand against the darkness

It will only be after my cold dead body that the orcs will destroy this beautiful land. The mountains, the fields, the cities, rivers and forests, the peaceful, good people.

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[–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 77 points 2 days ago (26 children)

reminder that the world did not enjoy it the last time Europeans were super powerful

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, they all hated each other and their internal beer hall brawl spilled out over the borders. It wasn’t that Europe was any kind of united force. Maybe it’s time. We’re fucked in the US, now.

Though I gotta admit it’s ironic AF that the Allies set up Germany with a far better constitution/Grundgesezt and government framework than our own Constitution which ended up essentially frozen because politics have gotten so bad that opening it up would have probably destroyed whatever good remained in it thanks to talibangelicals and corporate money.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they were talking about colonialism, not WW2

Ah, yeah that was a bad time for the rest of the world too.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Europe is the biggest provider of independence days !

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Get this, there's already a thing called the European Union - almost like we're already pretty united! :)

I don't really think further unification is the goal here.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The top US export is oil.

If you want to do something, wean yourself off oil. Big push for solar, wind, and anything else that doesn't rely on digging up bits of dinosaurs.

Electric vehicles, public transport, bikes, walking.

And as an added bonus, the world gets a little cleaner. Might be important, you know.

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)
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[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

EU already absorbed Switzerland in this pic despite them not wanting it, so there's that.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] albert180@piefed.social 22 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Switzerland is 100% dependent on the EU.

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Unite, but first, launch Orban into space, one-way-ticket kind-of way.

[–] verstra@programming.dev 57 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Power corrupts. No single country should be a global superpower

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's fine, Europe is several countries.

[–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (7 children)

So was the US. Technically the use of the word “state” implies it still is. What is the line between a bunch of states working together and them no longer being a bunch of separate countries?

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[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We just have to through the Bell riots and WW3, but then it’s all tea. Earl gray. Hot. From thee

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[–] SilentFury@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Only here to say that this picture REALLY makes the scandanavian countries look like a droopy dick n balls.

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yo when tf did Switzerland join?

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Same year that UK rejoined lmao.

[–] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The almighty Nordic cock and balls

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Weird map. The non-Union Balkan states and Norway are cut out, but Switzerland is filled in.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Anybody who knows the actual history and current reality of european imperialism will not want this at all.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We have too many traitors like Orban in the EU. The work against us.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Why is the forsaken UK still on the map ?

[–] Damage@feddit.it 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

'cause we know this relationship has its ups and downs but isn't over yet

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[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

It's hard to get them to agree on anything let alone actually coordinate real world actions together. You are going to be waiting a long time.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Economically and culturally, Europe is already a superpower. Militarily it isn't, and maybe that's not a terrible thing. Politically, it just seems to have a bias for moving slowly and by consensus, although it responded quickly to COVID and the assault on Ukraine, so it can do what's needed?

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[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sadly a lot of MEPs are in cahoots with Russia and hell bent on destroying the EU.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Cahoots is a strong word. They're all ethnic nationalists who sympathize with the wave of anti-Muslim hysteria echoing through the continent.

But when push comes to shove, they'll start shooting at one another over the border happily enough.

[–] hyves@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least for the Dutch alt-right party Forum voor Democratie there's definite proof that they get money from Russia

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[–] uienia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

No, it isn't a strong word at all. They are literally being paid by Putin. They exploit racism and bigotry, right wing populism, in their campaigns, but they aren't necessarily doing that out of personal conviction.

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